Originally posted by 753
SS did kill aegis and tenebras, they were above celestials and galatus was starved/that story was crap. Thor does have an energy absorption edge.
😕 I could have sworn the crunch had more to do with their deaths than Surfers power.
Surfer doesnt have the feats of damaging beings that Thor has damaged under his belt.
Originally posted by carver9
😕 I could have sworn the crunch had more to do with their deaths than Surfers power.Surfer doesnt have the feats of damaging beings that Thor has damaged under his belt.
It was the nature of the crunch's energies that allowed him to overcome the power gap and kill them, but it was his energy manipulation feat nonetheless. He wielded enough of the most destructive energy in the cosmos to overhelm 2 beings equal to galactus and survived its corrosive effect long enough to do it.
Thor has never delivered so much damage to anyone so powerfull. Maybe because he was never in the same situation, but the same holds true for Surfer and Thor's feats.
The Crunch feat was Surfer directing the energies of the crunch at T and A. That's all.
There really isn't anything more to it. And as far as I can tell, there aren't any previous references about the Crunch's energies for us to judge how difficult it was to manipulate said energies. Hold on, thinking about it, wasn't the Kyln prison powered by the Crunch?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The Crunch feat was Surfer directing the energies of the crunch at T and A. That's all.There really isn't anything more to it. And as far as I can tell, there aren't any previous references about the Crunch's energies for us to judge how difficult it was to manipulate said energies. Hold on, thinking about it, wasn't the Kyln prison powered by the Crunch?
It used the crunch's pull to keep those beings subdued I think, but nobody knows who built it.
Galactus says the crunch energies would kill him in instants (like it did A&T) or something to that effect, so taking a dive in it and wielding its power effectivelly is a very big deal. Specially for a creature of his relative insignificance like the SS.
Originally posted by 753
It used the crunch's pull to keep those beings subdued I think, but nobody knows who built it.Galactus says the crunch energies would kill him in instants (like it did A&T) or something to that effect, so taking a dive in it and wielding its power effectivelly is a very big deal. Specially for a creature of his relative insignificance like the SS.
As I recall it draws it's power from the Crunch, feeding power to many worlds and is also an intergalactic prison.
Kill him in instants? 😬
Galactus said that not even he can withstand channeling the energies of the Crunch for too long without being consumed.
It's a decent enough feat of willpower, durability and energy manipulation but that's about it.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusPlease, to defeat two beings who can defeat Galactus is an incredible showing for the Surfer.
As I recall it draws it's power from the Crunch, feeding power to many worlds and is also an intergalactic prison.Kill him in instants? 😬
Galactus said that not even he can withstand channeling the energies of the Crunch for too long without being consumed.
It's a decent enough feat of willpower, durability and energy manipulation but that's about it.
Originally posted by 753
It used the crunch's pull to keep those beings subdued I think, but nobody knows who built it.Galactus says the crunch energies would kill him in instants (like it did A&T) or something to that effect, so taking a dive in it and wielding its power effectivelly is a very big deal. Specially for a creature of his relative insignificance like the SS.
The crunch isnt a power source of the surfers so you using it as a debate isnt right. What Thor did was under his own power and Surfer doesnt have any feats close to it even though I still think they are equals and the most powerful of the high heralds.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Please, to defeat two beings who can defeat Galactus is an incredible showing for the Surfer.
Not if you break down the feat. It's obviously something worth noting but that's about it in my opinion.
Maybe it's my own personal biased for such feats though. I'd rather have Norrin lose to T and A and go down fighting than defeat them with some outside plot device.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusNo, even Galactus was impressed with the Surfer's resolve and ability to do so. It was an impressive showing and if this were Thor you'd be touting it.
Not if you break down the feat. It's obviously something worth noting but that's about it in my opinion.Maybe it's my own personal biased for such feats though. I'd rather have Norrin lose to T and A and go down fighting than defeat them with some outside plot device.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, even Galactus was impressed with the Surfer's resolve and ability to do so. It was an impressive showing and if this were Thor you'd be touting it.
Like I said, a nice showing of willpower and durability.
If Thor had done so with a Godblast or under his own power, you bet your ass I would. If he had however directed the power of the Crunch at them like Norrin did, I would've just said, "Meh. Decent energy manipulation feat." I just don't like victories that are dependent on outside plot devices.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusBecause we can't use them for battle board feats that's why.
Like I said, a nice showing of willpower and durability.If Thor had done so with a Godblast or under his own power, you bet your ass I would. If he had however directed the power of the Crunch at them like Norrin did, I would've just said, "Meh. Decent energy manipulation feat." I just don't like victories that are dependent on outside plot devices.