Originally posted by quanchi112
You talk of my credibility and completely miss the context of the ww hulk/strange fight. On panel it was stated strange can defeat hulk with the twitch of his finger yet you claim he struggles. The only reason he got his hands broken was because he was an ally and hulk used his cunning to take solid form. Wow. What problems has he had with grider ?Nabu while impressive doesn't have the feats of strange mind you so I fail to see the point. Nabu also threw the fight against the Spectre making it completely null and void since he wanted to lose.
Shazam was tricked into releasing Mordru who had other pressing matters such as defending himself against the Spectre who was on his way.
Ree'd machinations have dealt with far larger and more powerful beings than Mordru such as Galactus, Celestials, etc.
As do I. The Void has never ever been defeated by anyone other than himself and would definitely defeat Mordru imo. Mordru couldn't take on strange, reed, thor, hulk, etc. along with marvel earth simultaneously. Not even close.
The guy's blasts didn't even phase Prime.
He struggled, he lost to the psionic/soul incarnation of Bruce/Hulk. This is something that would never have happened to Classic Strange and is just more evidence of his downward spiral of power. I think you're the one who missed the context and significance of that fight sir.
He got almost killed by Ghost Rider the last time they fought (though it really doesn't help that Strange was on his decline of power and Ghost Rider was being fast tracked to being Marvel's Spectre at the time). Let me see if I can scrounge up scans from that fight.
Nabu didn't throw the fight. He was sacrificing himself to not only keep the Spectre's attention solely on him so that RoE could be rebuilt but also so that he could push the Spectre into killing him and thus setting off Yahweh/The Source/Presence/etc. into finally deeming him a mad dog that needed to be reigned in. You should also note that in that fight, the proximity of them throwing down near Earth caused earthquakes and tidal waves.
Your point? Mordru actually took over the RoE when it was meant to devour and disperse his power and forced Shazam to futilely expend most of his power just prior to The Spectre's arrival.
Yes, Reed can be a great nuisance when given time and ingenuity to defeat foes. But the forum rules stipulate that PIS is never in effect so your use of Reed in this particular instance doesn't help your case.
Mordru has some pretty high end feats. Among Immortality, subverting and corrupting artifacts that were meant to leave him less than nothing and absorbing the magic of an entire universe to amp himself. Mordru could more than handle The Hulk and all but the higher end of Earth's Heroes. He has been ballparked as a Skyfather level being.
And? Superboy Prime was a Pre-Crisis Kryptonian. PC Kryptonians could pull off feats like sneezing away Galaxies, pushing entire planets barehanded and breaking into/making war on Heaven. The Void is not in that weight class and just because Superboy Prime resisted a single mystical blast of unknown potency means nothing in this lineup.