Bellatrix lestrange/Fenrir Greyback versus Superman....

Started by dadudemon7 pages

Originally posted by Impediment
Magic wasn't even mentioned in Superman Returns.

Is this a factor?

Only if the thread starter said it was in the OP or shortly thereafter.

Originally posted by Robtard
Or what I said in the OP, as done many a time in these threads. Never said the wizards were blocking it, just that it's blocked, as it was in the film.

You would be breaking the rules, then: it is not an on-screen feat from the films. It didn't happen: they can't do it.

Originally posted by Impediment
IIRC, Routh's Superman showed no weakness to magic, only Kryptonite.

Magic wasn't even mentioned in Superman Returns.

Is this a factor?

Well, if the wizards have both what's the difference? Weaken him with kryptonite, administer the death spell.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You would be breaking the rules, then: it is not an on-screen feat from the films. It didn't happen: they can't do it.

No.

Originally posted by Robtard
Never said the wizards were blocking it, just that it's blocked, as it was in the film.

Why was it blocked in the film again?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yes it is, word for word, third post on page one.

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This is what you wrote, third post, page one:

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Think about this before dismissing it, dude. Think what the death spell does. Think about who hired the wizards and his resources.

Firstly, that doesn't explicitly say he gives them shit. Secondly, it doesn't say he gives them shit in the OP. Thirdly, having him give them shit after the OP would count as gimping. Fourthly, Lex Luthor doesn't own kyptonite, which is why he has to steal some in Returns, uses it to make his island and at the end of Returns is trapped on a beach, sans kryptonite. And lastly, even if they had kryptonite, it takes a while for it to take effect as shown in Returns, and even if they teleport in, wands raised, he would hear them say Avada Kadarva, or else hear the change in their heartbeats and blitz them at the speed of light.

You Fail.

Originally posted by Nephthys
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This is what you wrote, third post, page one:

Firstly, that doesn't explicitly say he gives them shit. Secondly, it doesn't say he gives them shit in the OP. Thirdly, having him give them shit after the OP would count as gimping. Fourthly, Lex Luthor [b]doesn't own kyptonite, which is why he has to steal some in Returns, uses it to make his island and at the end of Returns is trapped on a beach, sans kryptonite. And lastly, even if they had kryptonite, it takes a while for it to take effect as shown in Returns, and even if they teleport in, wands raised, he would hear them say Avada Kadarva, or else hear the change in their heartbeats and blitz them at the speed of light.

You Fail.

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Nah, this:

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Check it out:

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Superman is weakened instantly by a block of kryptonite the size of my fist, even when it is ten feet away. He is helpless. And when it is placed around his neck, he can't even move.

So, let's say that in that scene, Bellatrix walks up on Superman while he is helpless in the pool and death spells him. What happens?

I'll tell ya. Death.

And since Supes Returns is the same character, since it is Canon, it is safe to say that when Bellatrix apparates ten feet from him with kryptonite, he will be helpless.

And yes, Luthor would definitely give them kryptonite to weaken Superman.

And page one, third post of the thread:

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi [/i]
[B]Think about this before dismissing it, dude. Think what the death spell does. Think about who hired the wizards and his resources.
Originally posted by Robtard
No.

No.

Originally posted by dadudemon
And, the simple counter to what you said is that he also had his vision restored, too. 🙂 Remember, we can't gimp.
Nah, this:

Nah, this:

Originally posted by Nephthys
Lookie yourself babe:

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[b]Just try some links or shit.

I really doubt that you coulda kicked that guys ass. [/B]

As you can see, by the end of Returns, the version you specified, Superman has apparantly found some way to be able to lift an entire mountain of kryptonite with kryptonite poking out right next to him, so yeah, by now he's built up an immunity or it the effect has scaled down immensely.

And page one, third post of the thread:

Which says nothing about him helping them.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Nah, [b]this:

As you can see, by the end of Returns, the version you specified, Superman has apparantly found some way to be able to lift an entire mountain of kryptonite when its right next to him, so yeah, by now he's built up an immunity or it the effect has scaled down immensely.

Which says nothing about him helping them. [/B]

I'm using the high end feats of kryptonite, which rendered him into a crippled crackhead.

Again, it's the same character, he didn't get any stronger between Superman I and Superman Returns.

An immunity? haermm

And I'm using the high-end feats of Superman, the guy who's actually in the thread, unlike kryptonite.

And yet what you say goes against what we see. Previous movie- Crippled. Returns- Throws a f'ing mountain of the stuff into space when its literally inches from his face for some of it.

Do you have anyother reason why he could do that shit?

And when moving the island, he was moving SLOOOOOOOOOOOOW. He was still obviously weakened greatly. More than slow enough for a death spell to zap his ass.

Kryptonite IS in the thread, it's part of Luthor's resources. Doesn't matter if he has only a little of it, he can still give it to the wizards.

Again, wizards apparate near Superman with kryptonite, he is weakened, they death spell him.

You think Superman is gonna instantly fly away when the wizards appear? He'll think they're just human, dude. Read the OP, he is with Lois, his attention is on her. A millisecond later BAM Bellatrix is behind him.

Superman wins.

Magic is his weakness, but it's not an automatic win. He has fought countless of magic users and won.

He's never been hit by a death spell while weakened by kryptonite. Dooooooh!!!

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And when moving the island, he was moving SLOOOOOOOOOOOOW. He was still obviously weakened greatly. More than slow enough for a death spell to zap his ass.

Kryptonite IS in the thread, it's part of Luthor's resources. Doesn't matter if he has only a little of it, he can still give it to the wizards.

Again, wizards apparate near Superman with kryptonite, he is weakened, they death spell him.

You think Superman is gonna instantly fly away when the wizards appear? He'll think they're just human, dude. Read the OP, he is with Lois, his attention is on her. A millisecond later BAM Bellatrix is behind him.

I was thinking about something:

Why can't the wizards make themselves all port keys? That way, any time Superman touches them, instead of hurting them, Superman ZAAAPPITY ZOOOPY ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS! to the mountain of pure kryptonite that they made with tons of engorgio spells?

His only options, at that point, would be his freezy breath and heat vision.

And when moving the island, he was moving SLOOOOOOOOOOOOW. He was still obviously weakened greatly. More than slow enough for a death spell to zap his ass.

If by slow you mean reached space, which is around 50 miles upwards, with Earths atmosphere ending about 600 miles up, in about 3 minutes, while lifting a mountain then yeah, he's slow as ****. 🙂

Kryptonite IS in the thread, it's part of Luthor's resources. Doesn't matter if he has only a little of it, he can still give it to the wizards.

Gimpgimpgimpgimpgimp. You never said that Luthor was helping them in the OP. Thsi is a fight between Bellatrix and Fenrir, not those two AND Lex Luthor.

Also, no it isn't: 'Fourthly, Lex Luthor doesn't own kyptonite, which is why he has to steal some in Returns, uses it to make his island and at the end of Returns is trapped on a beach, sans kryptonite.


Again, wizards apparate near Superman with kryptonite, he is weakened, they death spell him.

You think Superman is gonna instantly fly away when the wizards appear? He'll think they're just human, dude. Read the OP, he is with Lois, his attention is on her. A millisecond later BAM Bellatrix is behind him.

And do you think that he'll do nothing when two people teleport in, and he will know via super-hearing, and he feels the kryptonite weakening him and its been shown that krytonite as of the end of Returns takes a while to take effect or weaken him down to human levels? Yeah, I didn't think so.

Superman picked up an entire continent of kypronite and rock while he had a kryptonite shard in his back. And that's just the movie.

Comic Superman can hear cells divide 😂
His heat vision is like hotter then the star
Hist fist destroy planets

Originally posted by Nephthys
If by slow you mean reached space, which is around 264,000 feet upwards in about 3 minutes, [b]while lifting a mountain then yeah, he's slow as ****. 🙂 [/B]

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Pwned.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Gimpgimpgimpgimpgimp. You [b]never said that Luthor was helping them in the OP. Thsi is a fight between Bellatrix and Fenrir, not those two AND Lex Luthor.[/B]

I'd assume that since Lex highered them, they have access to his resources, like the thread starter stated already.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Also, no it isn't:[b] 'Fourthly, Lex Luthor doesn't own kyptonite, which is why he has to steal some in Returns, uses it to make his island and at the end of Returns is trapped on a beach, sans kryptonite. [/B]

The thread starter cleared that up, first page. There's no need to continue this line of reasoning. Lex has kryptonite in this thread, so it's the Lex that had Kryptonite.

Originally posted by Nephthys
And do you think that he'll do nothing when two people teleport in, and he will know via super-hearing, and he feels the kryptonite weakening him and its been shown that krytonite as of the end of Returns takes a while to take effect or weaken him down to human levels? Yeah, I didn't think so.

He'll do nothing when he's been zappity zooooptied with petrificus totalus/stupified/obliviate/locomotor mortis//mind controlled with imperio/impedimenta/or, just for the heck of it, tarantallegra. 🙂

Originally posted by Nephthys
If by slow you mean reached space, which is around 50 miles upwards, with Earths atmosphere ending about 600 miles up, in about 3 minutes, [b]while lifting a mountain then yeah, he's slow as ****. 🙂[/b]
Dude, he was slowly rising upwards for a few minutes, then it cut to the scene where he was in space 🙄

Ever see a movie where someone is driving in one state, then an hour later in the movie they are halfway across the country?

Fail.

Gimpgimpgimpgimpgimp. You [b]never said that Luthor was helping them in the OP. Thsi is a fight between Bellatrix and Fenrir, not those two AND Lex Luthor.[/b]
Resources, dude. He hired them, he wants the job done right, he'll give them the kryptonite.

But you know, for all Luthor's genius, he might actually overlook this. In Superman Returns, when he stabbed Supes in the side, why didn't he slit his throat, or blow his head off?

PIS or CIS might reign supreme here.

Also, no it isn't:[b] 'Fourthly, Lex Luthor doesn't own kyptonite, which is why he has to steal some in Returns, uses it to make his island and at the end of Returns is trapped on a beach, sans kryptonite.
Yes huh he does, he has a cupboard full of it, with a little indian inside. Wanna see?

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And do you think that he'll do nothing when two people teleport in, and he will know via super-hearing, and he feels the kryptonite weakening him and its been shown that krytonite as of the end of Returns takes a while to take effect or weaken him down to human levels? Yeah, I didn't think so.

Already covered this.

Originally posted by dadudemon

I'd assume that since Lex highered them, they have access to his resources, like the thread starter stated already.

The thread starter cleared that up, first page. There's no need to continue this line of reasoning. Lex has kryptonite in this thread, so it's the Lex that had Kryptonite.

He'll do nothing when he's been zappity zooooptied with petrificus totalus/stupified/obliviate/locomotor mortis//mind controlled with imperio/impedimenta/or, just for the heck of it, tarantallegra. 🙂


yeppers

yeppers

hell yes yeppers. HP geek.

Originally posted by dadudemon

He'll do nothing when he's been zappity zooooptied with petrificus totalus/stupified/obliviate/locomotor mortis//mind controlled with imperio/impedimenta/or, just for the heck of it, tarantallegra. 🙂 [/B]

You have a good point here, dude.

When he landed on the island, he was weakened, he just didn't feel it yet. It wasn't until he started getting his ass kicked, until Luthor let him in on the island being kryptonite, that he realized it. By that time it was too late.

He lands, is walking all cocky and shit, thinking he still has his power, but at that point, a bullet to the brain woulda done him in.

Same as here. When Bellatrix lands close to him, he won't feel weakened yet (Superman Returns won't, anyway), but when she Imperios his ass, or crucios him, or death spells him, it will have the same affect on him as it would a regular person. He will be tortured, likely killed. Knowing Bellatrix, she'll toy with him, then have Fenrir beat the piss outta him, then kill him.

Hell, she could even petrificus totalus him and have her Super way with him.

That, or he is reduced to a blubbering fool, like in Superman 1. Either way, he dies.

I lol'd at the cinema when this happened:

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