the godblast challenge

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
[B]He couldn't penetrate the Force Field Galactus and his ship created in one simple hammer throw and nor would I expect him to.

Where do you see Thor attacking Galactus after they breach his shield exactly? I see Thor hovering in mid air spinning his hammer.

You realize that if Thor could actually do something they wouldn't need Reed plan which still didn't work?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He couldn't penetrate the Force Field Galactus and his ship created in one simple hammer throw and nor would I expect him to.

Where do you see Thor attacking Galactus after they breach his shield exactly? I see Thor hovering in mid air spinning his hammer.

Originally posted by kgkg
Are you serious read what Thing says this is not a animated movie the indication was that they are all attacking Galactus and having no effect.

You realize that if Thor could actually do something they wouldn't need Reed plan which still didn't work?

Again, all I see is Iron Man attacking Galactus and Thor hovering while swinging his hammer. Next you'll be assuming Thor hit him with a Godblast because Thing screamed to hit him with everything they have. Thor wasn't even beside them when the energy backlash hit. Just because a hero is present, it doesn't mean that they have to do something. If it's one thing that the Sentry has shown us, it's that.

Kurt Busiek did that with Thor such as against Ultron I believe. He had him attack a villain, get thrown back, and spend the rest of the battle as a background piece.

Thor can do something to Galactus. Especially a weakened one. History has shown us exactly that. Have you not been reading my posts?

Anyway... a weaker Galactus than what Kg showed earlier:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Heroes/GalactusTheDevourer6-19.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Heroes/GalactusTheDevourer6-21.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Heroes/GalactusTheDevourer6-24.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Heroes/GalactusTheDevourer6-26.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Heroes/GalactusTheDevourer6-27.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Heroes/GalactusTheDevourer6-29.jpg

^That's what he should have posted. I honestly thought I would have to bust out those scans myself just out of pity.

Was he really weaker than in Devourer #3? I thought he had feed by then. I can't double check as I'm on my laptop unfortunately.

Originally posted by Blanket
Wasn't that the same Galactus that Thing hurled by Mr Fantastic KO'ed?

Yup. After he gets knocked around by Thor etc., the Thing gets propelled and knocks him out. Fantastic Four #243.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
^That's what he should have posted. I honestly thought I would have to bust out those scans myself just out of pity.

Yup. After he gets knocked around by Thor etc., the Thing gets propelled and knocks him out. Fantastic Four #243.

At your edit: He was getting weaker throughout the series. All he was doing was eating bio energy, which as iirc was said throughout the whole arc (and previous issues) that it did nothing to him.

Hold on. I'm going to double check.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Again, all I see is Iron Man attacking Galactus and Thor hovering while swinging his hammer. Next you'll be assuming Thor hit him with a Godblast because Thing screamed to hit him with everything they have. Thor wasn't even beside them when the energy backlash hit. Just because a hero is present, it doesn't mean that they have to do something. If it's one thing that the Sentry has shown us, it's that.

Seriously..

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hold on. I'm going to double check.

Anyway, iirc, he was getting weaker throughout the fight, and he already started out weak. Which was mostly due to him expending energy at his already weakened state. Wrong fight. Then Strange does his spell, then Thingtastic finishes it. The whole fight was like 4 pages. Very weak Galactus.

Originally posted by Blanket
k. No faith in anyone.

Anyway, iirc, he was getting weaker throughout the fight, and he already started out weak. Which was mostly due to him expending energy at his already weakened state. Then Strange does his spell, then Thingtastic finishes it.

After Thor knocks him around, Strange casts his spell and Thing knocks him down. However, it wasn't the force of Thing's blow that forced him into unconsciousness. The spell that Doctor Strange cast had a Penance Star like affect on Galactus, and Galactus' mind was closed completely to escape the madness. The Thing even comments about how great of a spell Strange casts.

He was hungry and weakened when they attacked yes. After he gets put down, he gets weaker and weaker as his body consumes his own personal energies to feed or something similar. He was near death at that point.

It seems different writers have different views about Galactus' power levels as they do about characters.

Originally posted by kgkg
When Thor is there to stop Galactus we don't amuse he is standing there doing nothing why was he swing his hammer. He could even affect one of his figgen robots. It doesn't take a genius to know Thor couldn't do anything in that situation.

Seriously..

Because his hovering? I'm pretty sure I've seen Thor hover in mid air by spinning his hammer at his side and not the standard over the head method. Why are you still so hung up about this? Powerful characters are used as nothing more than background pieces all the time.

If I was you, I'd hang on to Galactus: The Devourer #6 as a life line. It suppots whatever argument your trying to make a hell of a lot better than that little scene.

Frankly, I don't even know what point your trying to prove anymore. We seem to have moved away from the Godblast topic for some reason.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Because his hovering?

Thor couldn't do jack.

Originally posted by kgkg
No because they were attacking Galactus. Anyway Blanket scans pretty much shows what I was trying to convey.

Thor couldn't do jack.

Fine, I don't care one way or another if you don't understand what I'm trying to convey.

What exactly were you trying to convey? That Thor can't take out Galactus with conventional attacks? I'm not going to argue that point. However, I am going to argue that Thor can take him out with a Godblast.

And there have been scenes that he has been able to do more than "jack".

Different writers, different opinions.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
And there have been scenes that he has been able to do more than "jack".

Different writers, different opinions.

and no God Blast will have no effect to a Normal Galactus.

Originally posted by Blanket
k. No faith in anyone.

Anyway, iirc, he was getting weaker throughout the fight, and he already started out weak. Which was mostly due to him expending energy at his already weakened state. Wrong fight. Then Strange does his spell, then Thingtastic finishes it. The whole fight was like 4 pages. Very weak Galactus.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
After Thor knocks him around, Strange casts his spell and Thing knocks him down. However, it wasn't the force of Thing's blow that forced him into unconsciousness. The spell that Doctor Strange cast had a Penance Star like affect on Galactus, and Galactus' mind was closed completely to escape the madness. The Thing even comments about how great of a spell Strange casts.

He was hungry and weakened when they attacked yes. After he gets put down, he gets weaker and weaker as his body consumes his own personal energies to feed or something similar. He was near death at that point.

It seems different writers have different views about Galactus' power levels as they do about characters.

Had Thing not attacked at that moment, Galactus wouldn't have went out at that specific point in time. Although, the whole reason anything worked was because he was already near death, so meh.

Either way, Thor has never fought an even average Galactus. Hell, even his first encounter with Galactus was overidden by other encounters of even the scans you just used. Where a hammer throw caused Galactus the most pain he's ever felt (lol).
And Galactus already survived a Godblast even at levels where a hammer throw could cause extreme pain... which was also a cheapshot.

Yes, different writers. However, recently, Galactus has steadily increased in power it seems.

Uh dunno how a Thor could take out an average Galactus, I really don't see it as applicable.

Originally posted by kgkg
Yes but recent portrayal > early Galactus showing where Galactus was pushed back affected by other heroes as well.

and no God Blast will have no effect to a Normal Galactus.

A different writer 10 years later who wrote a bigger gap between Galactus and the heroes doesn't suddenly erase what previous writers did. Galactus will have lower showings in the future as will all other characters, including Thor. It's simply the nature of comics. The sooner you come to realize the fact that not all people view Galactus as this constant untouchable cosmic entity, the sooner you and I can come to an agreement.

Except the only time a Godblast was used on such a Galactus, it did work.

The scans that Bran posted where Thor's attacks weren't doing anything to Galactus in Devourer #6? I'm pretty sure he was once again protected by a force field.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
A different writer 10 years later who wrote a bigger gap between Galactus and the heroes doesn't suddenly erase what previous writers did. Galactus will have lower showings in the future as will all other characters, including Thor. It's simply the nature of comics. The sooner you come to realize the fact that not all people view Galactus as this constant untouchable cosmic entity, the sooner you and I can come to an agreement.

Except the only time a Godblast was used on such a Galactus, it did work.

So now we can say people like Spider-man beat Thor? or punisher because he was K.O by a bullet. We don't just go by low end showing at at least Galactus is Hungry most of his appearances to explain these showings.

It's called looking at the average

anyway I'm done discussing Thor with you believe what you want.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The scans that Bran posted where Thor's attacks weren't doing anything to Galactus in Devourer #6? I'm pretty sure he was once again protected by a force field.

Because I remember the only force field that he used there was the one destroyed on his ship... that he was too lazy too put back up because he needed to feed.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The scans that Bran posted where Thor's attacks weren't doing anything to Galactus in Devourer #6? I'm pretty sure he was once again protected by a force field.