Iron Man vs Apocalypse

Originally posted by TheTyrant
He put Namor down after Namor got a cheap shot in. Namor got up and chucked a table at Apoc which Apocalypse dodged. Then it would have been over, Namor got lucky that one of Apocalypse' horsemen interferred or else he would have had his head knocked off.

If Apoc was ready, that hit would have been fatal for Namor

More accurately Apoc is lucky one of his Horsemen picked up his slack and took care of mean old table-man for him.

Lol at Apoc killing Namor with one blow.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
I can't find the scans, but if you do find and read all of them issues, you would know.

You made the claims. You need to prove it. Otherwise, you need to man up and say "I have no proof".

Iron Man drops the helicarrier on Apoc.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Wow. You're sad.

More accurately Apoc is lucky one of his Horsemen picked up his slack and took care of mean old table-man for him.

Lol at Apoc killing Namor with one blow.

He's too far gone. Best thing for us to do is back away slowly and tell him that we're not going to hurt him, we're friends and everything's going to be all right...

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Predicting moves doesn't matter if he's too slow to react.

Also one feat doesn't prove the ability to read a Kryptonian mind. Even Martian Manhunter has trouble tapping into Kryptonian minds.

Apocalypse =/= Martian Manhunter. Apocalypse is a mutant, J'onn is a martian.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Wow. You're sad.

More accurately Apoc is lucky one of his Horsemen picked up his slack and took care of mean old table-man for him.

Lol at Apoc killing Namor with one blow.

Too bad it's true.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Apocalypse =/= Martian Manhunter. Apocalypse is a mutant, J'onn is a martian.

Which proves what?

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Apocalypse =/= Martian Manhunter. Apocalypse is a mutant, J'onn is a martian.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Too bad it's true.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Which proves what?

He said that MM couldn't read kryptonian minds because they are 'different' than human minds. I said that Apocalypse is a mutant and not an alien, which destorys that arguement totally as a mutants telepatical powers =/= an alien's telepathical powers going by OV's logic.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Exactly what strength/battle feats does Apoc have that suggest he can one-shot kill a being who has traded blows with Savage Hulk?

He restrained base Hulk at average size. He pimp smacked Cable down...the same Cable that took down an enraged Hulk in the previous issue(Onslaught saga)

Originally posted by TheTyrant
He said that MM couldn't read kryptonian minds because they are 'different' than human minds. I said that Apocalypse is a mutant and not an alien, which destorys that arguement totally as a mutants telepatical powers =/= an alien's telepathical powers going by OV's logic.

If Martian Manhunter, one of the best telepaths in comics has some trouble entering a Kryptonian mind then how can Apoc hope to enter it when he has one shaky feat?

Originally posted by TheTyrant
He restrained base Hulk at average size. He pimp smacked Cable down...the same Cable that took down an enraged Hulk in the previous issue(Onslaught saga)

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You're right. MM is way better than Apoc. Thanks for clarifying.

In telepathy. In regards of combat, Apoc would crush MM by turning his hands into flame-throwers..

Originally posted by TheTyrant
In telepathy. In regards of combat, Apoc would crush MM by turning his hands into flame-throwers..

MM would shit stomp Apoc in a fight.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I never said that, only that Kryptonian minds are more difficult for any telepath to work with than human minds.

If Martian Manhunter, one of the best telepaths in comics has some trouble entering a Kryptonian mind then how can Apoc hope to enter it when he has one shaky feat?

There are other ones such as mind-blasting Exodus and stuff. I can't find the scans unfortunately.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
None of those would be beyond Namor's abilities.

They are going by Namor and Hulk's previous encounters.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
He said that MM couldn't read kryptonian minds because they are 'different' than human minds. I said that Apocalypse is a mutant and not an alien, which destorys that arguement totally as a mutants telepatical powers =/= an alien's telepathical powers going by OV's logic.

He showed that certain aspects of the Kryptonian mind makes them difficult to read unlike humans. Unless it has been proven that MM can only read human minds (based on your reasoning), then you have even less proof than OV that mutants will fare better.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Fire isn't an insta-win against MM just like Kryptonite isn't an insta-win against Superman.

MM would shit stomp Apoc in a fight.

If it helps you sleep better at night.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
I can't find the scans unfortunately.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
If it helps you sleep better at night.