Hulk vs. Gladiator

Originally posted by 753
He wouldn't need to be moving anywhere near lighstpeed to BFR Hulk under a second, let alone multiples of c. He was flying pretty slowly to serve the plot and he frequently moves much faster.

Yes I have, he makes frequent use of superspeed.

Gladiator has already used the BFR tactic and failed due to flying at insufficient speeds, which I atribute to PIS and already explained why. Getting punched or bullrushed isn't a big enough stimulus for the Hulk to become abnormally angry.

If so, GTFO!

Seriously, it has already happen in the comic. Why don't you become a writer for Marvel than.

Originally posted by 753
He wouldn't need to be moving anywhere near lighstpeed to BFR Hulk under a second, let alone multiples of c. He was flying pretty slowly to serve the plot and he frequently moves much faster.

Yes I have, he makes frequent use of superspeed.

Gladiator has already used the BFR tactic and failed due to flying at insufficient speeds, which I atribute to PIS and already explained why. Getting punched or bullrushed isn't a big enough stimulus for the Hulk to become abnormally angry.

Let me ask you something, outside of Hulk's approximation which I doubt is completely accurate, how do you know at what speed Gladiator was flying at?

Let me see Gladiator use his super speed to attack someone with hundreds to thousands of blows.

Maybe he doesn't have the sufficient speed according to that comic. He clearly wasn't playing around and meant to take Hulk out. Chris might have just thought he wasn't fast enough. Or maybe it was just C.I.S.

No, not a normal brawl like this, but thinking about Betty's death, concentrating on it, would get him abnormally angry more than likely. I mean, since we're having Gladiator do shit his never done before, let's make it fair and have Hulk do shit his never done before.

so this is going to become the new Hulk Vs Superman tread......

i mean seriously anyone that wants to see can go to the search and look for it....it has like a billion posts...

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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lol

ummm

well i kinda think glads would take this if he was at full confidence.

glads flight and speed gives him the edge imo

Originally posted by 753
Let go of the hulk's balls son. Gladiator flies, is thousands of times faster and probably just as strong at base level. The world jobbed to WWH so he could have his 15 minutes. Gladiator throws him into space and that'll be the last we have to see of him.

Glad can speed blitz..just because he didn't do in to Hulk in comic..doesn't mean he can't do it here..this isn't a comic..Glad fight to the best of his ability..that means he will fight at super speed..Hulk doesn't stand a chance against someone he can't even keep up with no matter how strong he gets..

Originally posted by Slaanesh
Glad can speed blitz..just because he didn't do in to Hulk in comic..doesn't mean he can't do it here..this isn't a comic..Glad fight to the best of his ability..that means he will fight at super speed..Hulk doesn't stand a chance against someone he can't even keep up with no matter how strong he gets..

^ actually, we do argue power sets, it's just that you have to remember to use them in character also (ie superman has heat vision, he can use heat vision till he's blue in the face, he just won't kill with it)

Originally posted by byrdgang21
Hulk wins in a long but tough fight. The reason why is because the more hulk fights the angrier and stronger he is going to become. Gladiator will notice that hulk is becoming stronger and then start to doubt himself and lose confidence, then ultimately start to become weaker while hulk is still getting stronger.

dude's not going to punk out cause a guy is stronger than him, the only incident that something like this happened is when reed mocked him by using an illusion to mask captain america in an image of reed standing there with a dirty grin on his face. gladiator got so angry that he used some of his hardest plows, too bad cap's shield made them worthless, that's why he felt like a weak feeb -only then did his power dip-. he's fought most of the strong men and women of marvel and never wavered like that. it's a myth.

Originally posted by quanchi112
These characters fight here like they do in the comics otherwise it becomes a powerset debate. Give me one example of a speedblitz of his.

we have to debate about powerset..we can't just ignore it..Glad speed blitz in WOK #3..

Gladiator...
speed flight and range attacks give him the advantage

Cannonball

^I see what you did there... 🙄

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Let me ask you something, outside of Hulk's approximation which I doubt is completely accurate, how do you know at what speed Gladiator was flying at?

Let me see Gladiator use his super speed to attack someone with hundreds to thousands of blows.

Maybe he doesn't have the sufficient speed according to that comic. He clearly wasn't playing around and meant to take Hulk out. Chris might have just thought he wasn't fast enough. Or maybe it was just C.I.S.

No, not a normal brawl like this, but thinking about Betty's death, concentrating on it, would get him abnormally angry more than likely. I mean, since we're having Gladiator do shit his never done before, let's make it fair and have Hulk do shit his never done before.

Escape velocity for earth is just 11.2km/sec, mach 3 or 4, that's nothing for gladiator. However, if he flung the hulk into escape velocity withinh the atmosphere, the hulk would thunderclap his way back to ground, so let's take him outside the atmosphere:

Effects of the atmosphere can no longer be noticed after 120 km altitude from sea level. Gladiator didn't even make it that far with the hulk in what looked like a 5 second struggle based on thought and speech bubbles. So he was moving slower than 24km/second, which is arround mach 8 - thats 0,01% of lightspeed. That is very slow compared to his average and high showings of superspeed when he uses it. Once outside the atmosphere, the hulk wouldn't be able to thunderclap his way back.

I do agree that the writer might have not thought gladiator to be that fast or he simply didn't want the Hulk removed from battle like that. There is even an in-comic explanation as gladiator not being that self-confident in the story, but this wasn't explictly mentioned IIRC. However, we are aware of Gladiator's other feats, we are supposed to take characters at optimal levels and ignore PIS.

I could go scan hunting but there really is no need for that as I cited hundreds or thousands of blows to illustrate a point: he can punch the hulk far more often than the Hulk can punch him unless PIS or CIS are crippling him (he'll rarely face an opponent that takes a hundred blows to put down). How many blows do you think it's reasonable for the Hulk to deliver for each one gladiator does? Or do you think the fact that Gladiator is so much faster woudn't even factor in here and they'd be evenly fast? Gladiator does blitz frequently and it is in-character behavior.

Originally posted by rotiart
Cannonball

Originally posted by Warlord
^I see what you did there... 🙄

Gladiator wasn't aware of Sam's abilities and Sam got a one time good punch in......that's one of my favorite issues of Xmen.

Glads would be well aware of Hulk's abilities.
And not make that pause of surprise.

No PIS here, Glads wins.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
heh, i've seen that youtube video before, that guy was wrong on a lot of accounts but mostly regarding how gladiator's power works.

dude's not going to punk out cause a guy is stronger than him, the only incident that something like this happened is when reed mocked him by using an illusion to mask captain america in an image of reed standing there with a dirty grin on his face. gladiator got so angry that he used some of his hardest plows, too bad cap's shield made them worthless, that's why he felt like a weak feeb -only then did his power dip-. he's fought most of the strong men and women of marvel and never wavered like that. it's a myth.

Originally posted by rotiart
Cannonball

what about him? Please explain what YOU think happened.

its not PIS that hulk can beat gladiator its just comics..
i mean silver surfer pretty much can change to the size of an ant and go into thors nose and smash his brain,
apocolypse can become 2000ft and just step on people and kill them, no one should be able to tag flash, odin can open a small black hole inside thanos brain and kill him, sentry can mind rape all of the earths heros all at the same time, or just destroy the planet,
if odin can create galaxys heck galactus can create a universe of planets for him to feed on instead having to kill entire races.
its just comics