Originally posted by NephthysKrayt was speaking with holocrons, but they did not own him.
It looked like he was though. Those were holocrons, right?
Have a look at the last scan. As you can see, Krayt is almost fully consumed by the Yorik-Kul, yet all it took was one fit of rage to undo all of that 'damage'. Now if it were really that easy for Krayt to cure/heal himself, he would have done so a LONG time ago. Chalk it up to fear-based illusions.
Originally posted by Pwned
Unless Luke does shatterpoint at least the orbalisks, or he can completly sever a limb, hes screwed due to the healing powers of the orbaiks,also the fact that they are lightsaber proof. I dont much much about Vong crab armor, but isnt i lightsaber proof as well? Bane and Krat could also just fry Luke with lightning if he wasnt so op.........
Luke was able to use his Force aided strength to slice through Vong armor when attacking the Citadel, so the same may be true against Orbalisks.
Originally posted by Nephthys
It looked like he was though. Those were holocrons, right?
Not quite. Bane and Nihilus were holocrons, but Andeddu (the mummy/zombie guy) was his actual spirit hiding inside the holocron. He is briefly revived at one point when the holcron holding his spirit is re-united with his body.
Plus, as Galan007 points out, those were most likely illusions. Fighting on the mental plane was Andeddu's specialty.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Owning of multiple Imperial Knights: we don't know how powerful those Knights were.
They were the Emperor's bodyguards and their leader was his cousin. I'm pretty sure that the Emperor would want his bodyguards to be powerful.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Toying with Cade: How powerful is Cade?
He's a Skywalker. He's as powerful as Anakin and Luke.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Owning of multiple Imperial Knights: we don't know how powerful those Knights were.
Personal bodyguards of the Emperor, one of whom was the Emperor's cousin, and we know that family is strong in the force (likely descended from Jaina).
Took, like, 3 seconds to take all four down when they were expecting him.
Toying with Cade: How powerful is Cade?
Powerful enough to raise the dead, as well as being a Skywalker.
Superiority to Wyyrlok: How do we know?
Even after Wyyrlok took over, he relied on Krayt's reputation rather than his own strength. The One Sith feared Krayt's power but not his.
Also, from the latest legacy:
Spoiler:
Krayt survived Wyyrlok's and Muur's attempts to kill him!
And how do we know how powerful Andeddu is?
Powerful enough to survive as a spirit for thousands of years and be a great Sith Lord in his time who's legend lived on.
Pretty much everyone went to Andeddu as a go-to guy for Sith knowledge of immortality, including Bane and Dooku.
Dr McBeefington
As Muur said, Krayt himself was a Sith Zygote. Andeddu claimed that his apprentices showed more potential than Wyrrlok. Now is any of that true? Who knows. But KRayt's sith seem to be the weakest order. I'm impressed by the looks of the True Sith's Dark Council.
We saw how well Andeddu's apprentice claims held up when Wyyrlok not only destroyed him but tricked him at the same time 🙂 We also know that Muur said Krayt was certain to defeat Celeste, and this is a century after Celeste gave Vader a fight and had spent that time in constant mental struggle to grow stronger.
The problem with those is every Sith claims how superior theirs was. Muur might or-might not be even stronger (his talisman did make Andeddu's look like a chump, and Vader sensed that with it's power he could overthrow Palpatine, so I could buy it, purely on the 'Muur is a badass' level), but the One Sith still have a lot going for them.
They don't have too many high level master types, Krayt and Wyyrlok mostly, but they do have quite a few of significant power and skill, like all the Hands, Maladi, Saarai, and Azard.
The One Sith don't have many really high up Sith, but they do seem to have quite a few solidly skilled ones. It'd be fun to see them take on Kaan's Brotherhood.
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Wouldn't the One Sith be horribly outnumbered by Kaan's Brotherhood?
Depends on when you're talking about. When Kaan took over and they had 20k, yea, the One Sith'd be screwed. By the time of the Ruusan campaign the numbers were down to around 2,000, and thus it's a pretty good fight.
^ I kind of figured that Krayt would be back eventually - he's too good of a character to just let fizzle out. What surprised me the most is that they kept him out of the picture for this long (17 issues/a year and a half+) before revealing that he was not truly dead.
Tbh, I'm quite excited to see what the last 2 issues bring to the table. Krayt is going to unleash hell, me thinks.
Originally posted by Q99
Depends on when you're talking about. When Kaan took over and they had 20k, yea, the One Sith'd be screwed. By the time of the Ruusan campaign the numbers were down to around 2,000, and thus it's a pretty good fight.
Wow, didn't realize the One Sith even had near 2000. I thought it was a only a few hundred.
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Wow, didn't realize the One Sith even had near 2000. I thought it was a only a few hundred.
The writer's said that it's certainly over a thousand, and possibly quite a bit more, though I don't know if it's set in stone.
After all, they had to take on a pretty strong Jedi order.
Not all One Sith are Darths, of course.
Originally posted by Pwned
The One Sith is just a sith empire right?So pretty much it worked out some flaws of Kaans brotherhood but they stil gonna kill each other?
I agree wit Bane Krayt isnt a real sith when he shares power
There's a pretty big difference in that while Kaan shared decision making power at the top between several Sith Lords, Krayt is an absolute at the pinnacle, much like Palpatine, and those under him are a tool to his will.
Originally posted by Pwned
Ok, so the One Sih are still fairly powerful sith?
A lot of them, yes, especially Krayt's inner circle. Most One Sith were raised from birth to be loyal dark side users, and have just as full training as Jedi, though presumably they have to pass difficult trials to earn higher levels of knowledge and such.
if im right then werent the emporers hands and inquisitors just barely proficient in the forcenough to use their senses?
It varied somewhat depending on what they were used for, but in general yea, you got it.
Originally posted by Pwned
So Krayt
A: Beefed up his disciples eithout knowing that if they banded together they could kill him
B: Screwed up the sith
He beefed them up in a way that seems to keep them in line well (even when he's in stasis for years, he has not been killed while vulnerable, his most loyal have always kept the rest in line), though it may have a problem with succession. If he can successfully mold someone else in a way that allows them to maintain the same level of control he does... then it may be the organizationally most robust Sith organization yet (or at least since the Sith Emperor's in the Old Republic).
I stillthink Bane and Krayt take it if they didnt kill eachother
Yea, I agree.
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Well, Luke was barely able to defeat Raynar and Lomi Plo in DN, so if you think these guys are much better than those two, it's hard to argue that Luke could win.
He WTF pwned Raynar and Lomi Plo. The lightsaber fight with Plo lasted 2 seconds. He force destroyed Raynar seconds later. The biggest deal in that fight was dealing with all the droids. Once they were gone, he ended. I'm not saying that as a fanboy, though I am, THAT fight was the most lopsided he has fought in a long time.