The (Dr.) Manhattan Project

Understood. Point is, who's to say that would work on Manhattan; what evidence exists that suggests his powers can be taken away? I'm not certain about this, i just have my doubts...

Originally posted by cdtm
With CIS off?

Unlike Watchman Manhattan, he'll actually do something about his future knowledge.

But what if they try and block his omni-time vision like Ozy did, one may ask? Technically, Dr. Manhattan should've been aware of events just before, and just after his time vision got obstructed. But he just didn't act on it, because it's what he does...

It is a simple matter for these guys to shield themselves from Osterman`s senses. Taking him out will be even simpler. This is not the Watchmen world, the tech these guys can whip up in minutes are insanely ahead of what Ozymandias had to play with.

If Doom could take The Beyonder's powers, than Manhattan's would be a walk in the cake.

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Originally posted by rader
If Doom could take The Beyonder's powers, than Manhattan's would be a walk in the cake.

I see what you did there.

Reed soloes, Doom soloes, Pym MIGHT also soloes.

I don't see Manhattan stronger that Surfer. Maybe he's even weaker: Surfer can time travel, which is not something Manhattan can do. Hell, he can see in the future but can't modify the outcome.

On the other side, Doom already pwn Surfer, Galactus and Beyonder. He can time travel, and have the abilities over magic.

As for Reed, he's the specialist when it comes to cosmic. He already have pwn Doom several times and the mother****er have, in his closet, guns that can kill Celestials. In his closet.

These two would MURDER Manhattan, the match wouldn't even be fun to watch.

You guys are selling Dr. M short.I mean he has been deatomized and reformed himself as a giant.Thats pretty good and it definitly hasn't shown his limits.

I believe he is high above surfer and possibly near galactus level.If galactus was hellbent on taking over these guys or just plain killing them do you really think there is anything they could to do stop it.
Also doom only stole galactus/beyonders power with a plot device.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
You guys are selling Dr. M short.I mean he has been deatomized and reformed himself as a giant.Thats pretty good and it definitly hasn't shown his limits.

I believe he is high above surfer and possibly near galactus level.If galactus was hellbent on taking over these guys or just plain killing them do you really think there is anything they could to do stop it.
Also doom only stole galactus/beyonders power with a plot device.

Osterman is near Big G? Why? The projections for his damage output was that he could destroy large areas in the Soviet Union if going all out in a nuclear war. He is no planet killer and tho he is powerful, he ain`t no Surfer.

Right, he couldnt even nullify the soviet strike, the usa would be destroyed just the same in nuclear war.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Osterman is near Big G? Why? The projections for his damage output was that he could destroy large areas in the Soviet Union if going all out in a nuclear war. He is no planet killer and tho he is powerful, he ain`t no Surfer.

Also where did it say his power projection output?Scans please or watchmen page and comic number.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Osterman is near Big G? Why? The projections for his damage output was that he could destroy large areas in the Soviet Union if going all out in a nuclear war. He is no planet killer and tho he is powerful, he ain`t no Surfer.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I defintly believe his is above surfer and possibly near galactus level.

Also where did it say his power projection output?Scans please or watchmen page and comic number.

Again, why do you rank him that high?

No scan since it is from one of those text only pages, the piece that deals with Manhattan`s power and his influence on the cold war and so on. Don`t have the book at hand right now but it should be at the end of chapter four.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I defintly believe his is above surfer and possibly near galactus level.

Also where did it say his power projection output?Scans please or watchmen page and comic number.

They plainly state he could only take a percentage, 40% or somehting, of the soviet nuclear strike and the usa would still be destoryed.

gonna play devils advocate here. doesnt this only showcase his power as far as a series of precision, multidirectional blasts, not so much the destructive force of any one of those blasts?

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
gonna play devils advocate here. doesnt this only showcase his power as far as a series of precision, multidirectional blasts, not so much the destructive force of any one of those blasts?

I think it had something to do with how many copys of himself he could make, so yes, it had more to do with aplication of power than raw blasting power. But SS could disarm the whole planet with a thought.

then its basically apples to oranges when discussing his powerlevel vs someone like galactus who wont fight him by coming from tons of different angles and force him to use duplication to fight him

If i told you that i had complete understanding of matter at it's fundemental level...

what does everyone think this means? and what could you infer i would be capable of?

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
gonna play devils advocate here. doesnt this only showcase his power as far as a series of precision, multidirectional blasts, not so much the destructive force of any one of those blasts?

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I don't recall him really blasting much. It was usually disassembling. Cable did something similar when he had his big man pants on which leads me to believe he's around herald level with crazy fat brain bonuses.