Bayonetta, Dante, and Ganondorf VS Kain, Sora, and Sephiroth

Originally posted by The Scenario
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Now let's lay down some ground rules here.

Ganondorf = Trififorce of Power
Vaati = Mage's Cap

Ganondorf > Vaati (established in Four Swords)
Triforce of Power > Mage's Cap

Zelda = Triforce of Wisdom

Triforce of Wisdom + Mage's Cap = Genocide/Reality Warp

Something less powerful than the Triforce of Power, when combined with the Triforce of Wisdom, can pull of a genocide.

The Mage's Cap did more than what Link's wish in LttP did. The cap actually wished away monsters unlike the Triforce.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
The Mage's Cap did more than what Link's wish in LttP did. The cap actually wished away monsters unlike the Triforce.

"But now, you have totally
destroyed Ganon. His Dark
World will vanish." - Triforce

Ganon's world had monsters in it. 😐
So, did the Triforce make it vanish, or was it all anchored on Ganon, and defeating him make it vanish? Pick one.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
[b]"But now, you have totally
destroyed Ganon. His Dark
World will vanish." - Triforce

Ganon's world had monsters in it. 😐
So, did the Triforce make it vanish, or was it all anchored on Ganon, and defeating him make it vanish? Pick one. [/B]

Ganon created the monsters. It's a common cliche for an antagonist belongings to die with him (Smithy, Dracula, most FF villains, Dark Samus, etc.)

None of that is an act of the Triforce (other than reverting the Dark World back to its original form.

Neat, a power has just been given to Ganondorf. The power to create armies at will.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Ganon created the monsters. It's a common cliche for an antagonist belongings to die with him (Smithy, Dracula, most FF villains, Dark Samus, etc.)

1. Just because it is common doesn't mean it applies to Ganondorf.
2. The entire plot of Adventure of Link was Ganon's still living minions trying to kill Link and revive Ganon with his blood.
3. That doesn't apply to Dark Samus, either.

None of that is an act of the Triforce (other than reverting the Dark World back to its original form.

And the act of reverting the Dark World destroyed the monsters. Still, the Triforce has brought a bunch of people back to life, reversed curses, and warped an entire world (and its inhabitants) at least twice.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Neat, a power has just been given to Ganondorf. The power to create armies at will.

Not all of them are his creations. Obviously, Moblins, Blind, and others had already existed in Hyrule (that also includes the possibility of warped Hylians that could have chosen to serve Ganon). The Dark World boss monsters (except for Blind) had to be his creations.

Originally posted by The Scenario
1. Just because it is common doesn't mean it applies to Ganondorf.

Ganondorf fits the cliche of evil sorcerors who get defeated by protagonist swordsman. Don't deny it.

2. The entire plot of Adventure of Link was Ganon's still living minions trying to kill Link and revive Ganon with his blood.

I'm sure the Ironknuckles were reanimated by magic as well as the Stalfos. I would consider the bipedal creatures as Ganon's troops and the Octorok, Ache, Keese, Dodongo, etc. as part of Hyrule's wildlife.

3. That doesn't apply to Dark Samus, either.

When Dark Samus was put out of existence, so did Phazon.

And the act of reverting the Dark World destroyed the monsters. Still, the Triforce has brought a bunch of people back to life, reversed curses, and warped an entire world (and its inhabitants) at least twice.

All the Triforce did was undo Ganon's wish. And I don't remember the Golden Land having inhabitants. IIRC, the Golden Land is where the Triforce rests and the transformed people are the ones who went seeking for the Triforce.

And what about all the Hylians that were turned into talking trees?

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Not all of them are his creations. Obviously, Moblins, Blind, and others had already existed in Hyrule (that also includes the possibility of warped Hylians that could have chosen to serve Ganon). The Dark World boss monsters (except for Blind) had to be his creations.

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Ganondorf fits the cliche of evil sorcerors who get defeated by protagonist swordsman. Don't deny it.

I don't deny it at all. All I'm saying is that you are assuming Ganondorf and everything related to him works the same way as something from a completely different universe based on absolutelely nothing besides the fact that he's a character type and all character types must have the same abilities and weaknesses.

i.e: You are generalizing, and I don't like it.

I'm sure the Ironknuckles were reanimated by magic as well as the Stalfos. I would consider the bipedal creatures as Ganon's troops and the Octorok, Ache, Keese, Dodongo, etc. as part of Hyrule's wildlife.

And the Iron Knuckles and Stalfos were in Adventure of Link, thus proving that his creations exist after his death, thus also breaking the cliche.

When Dark Samus was put out of existence, so did Phazon.

Or rather, since Dark Samus pulled the retard move of connecting AU 313 to the origin of all phazon, destroying that thing wiped out phazon.

All the Triforce did was undo Ganon's wish. And I don't remember the Golden Land having inhabitants. IIRC, the Golden Land is where the Triforce rests and the transformed people are the ones who went seeking for the Triforce.

The whole thing was full of monsters. Some may have been treasure hunters. Quite a few of them were also Ganon's creations, which are previously proven to exist after Ganon's defeat. Since the world returned to normal, and normal presumably does not include vile creations of darkness that don't have the decency to die when their leader is killed, it must have gotten rid of them somehow. Like, say wiping them from existence along with the Dark World.

Actually, that's a nice choice of words there. The Triforce itself said the world would "vanish." Vanish, disappear, remove, dematerialize, pass into a oblivion, etc. along with everything in it. Since Ganon's stuff keeps existing as proven, and there being other things he didn't create there, it seems they got "vanished."

Ergo, we got a goddessdamned genocide.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
And what about all the Hylians that were turned into talking trees?

Weren't those talking trees originally Hyrule trees? How they got in the Dark World is beyond me.

Originally posted by The Scenario
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And the Iron Knuckles and Stalfos were in Adventure of Link, thus proving that his creations exist after his death, thus also breaking the cliche.

Ganon still had Wizzrobes available and they may have given life to the Stalfos and Iron Knuckles. There's also that magician that casted a sleeping spell on Zelda and Thunderbird.

The whole thing was full of monsters. Some may have been treasure hunters. Quite a few of them were also Ganon's creations, which are previously proven to exist after Ganon's defeat. Since the world returned to normal, and normal presumably does not include vile creations of darkness that don't have the decency to die when their leader is killed, it must have gotten rid of them somehow. Like, say wiping them from existence along with the Dark World.

Actually, that's a nice choice of words there. The Triforce itself said the world would "vanish." Vanish, disappear, remove, dematerialize, pass into a oblivion, etc. along with everything in it. Since Ganon's stuff keeps existing as proven, and there being other things he didn't create there, it seems they got "vanished."

Ergo, we got a goddessdamned genocide.

Oh well, I guess the Triforce did do all that.