Originally posted by MooCowofJusticeA. He has never done it to anyone else, despite how incredibly useful it would be to end that pesky green tunic-wearing nuisance.
Thought I disagree with Dunsparce on many things, I think it'd be better to find out why it makes sense that he can only banish his own creations. Gaps between dimensions don't open up easily, I am certain.
B. That creation came into being from Ganondorf, it stands to reason he would have absolute control over it.
Twilight Realm is viable.
Has Ganon ever actually ported anyone into the Dark Realm?
Not that it matters, a TCed Ultimecia will have already eaten the planet and Ganondorf, Albedo is supposed to be some godly reality warper, and Nihilus is stronger because his TK makes Ganon's look like an absolute joke, as do his mental abilities and his raw power.
I understand that Phantom Ganon is his creation, but I don't think he has complete control over it. Sure, it works for his goals, but of it's own accord. It's like you guys are saying he can open the portal and throw him into it because Phantom Ganon is his creation. But, we already know he has TK. And I don't see how it's logical to say that portal can only be opened for use on his creations.
Originally posted by MooCowofJusticeIt's own accord? Because it has certainly shown extensive freedom of will, amirite? It has yet to speak, all it has ever done was fight Link whenever the **** Ganondorf wanted it to. It has no freedom, it is completely under Ganon's control.
I understand that Phantom Ganon is his creation, but I don't think he has complete control over it. Sure, it works for his goals, but of it's own accord. It's like you guys are saying he can open the portal and throw him into it because Phantom Ganon is his creation. But, we already know he has TK. And I don't see how it's logical to say that portal can only be opened for use on his creations.
Throw him into it? The portal appeared right one Phantom Ganon, and slowly pulled it in, after it was already dying. Even assuming that he can do it to others, an ability never displayed, it is so laughably slow do you believe anyone of the power in this thread while healthy will be taken in?
Sure, he has TK, but Albedo and a TCed Ultimecia are too powerful for it to matter, and Nihilus' TK makes Ganondorf's look like a joke, his TK makes most other gaming characters look pretty crappy.
Magical failsafe? If it failed him, it was cursed to be put between dimensions?
No but we should assume it can do ahead and do it to anything he wants despite never doing so, right?
I'm getting annoyed with the "its so slow" claim.
Ganondorf destroyed PG's body with fire before forcing him down the chute, all while holding him in place with TK.
Saying that PG is Ganon's creation is a nice point, but it cant stand alone as an argument against Ganondorf being able to do it to anyone.
Ultimecia would get put in a pink crystal and forced to make G-dorf a sandwich.
Originally posted by LLLLLinkDude.
I'm getting annoyed with the "its so slow" claim.
Ganondorf destroyed PG's body with fire before forcing him down the chute, all while holding him in place with TK.
Saying that PG is Ganon's creation is a nice point, but it cant stand alone as an argument against Ganondorf being able to do it to anyone.
Ultimecia would get put in a pink crystal and forced to make G-dorf a sandwich.
Almost EVERY boss dies that way. 😐
Ganondorf did not set it on fire, nor was it held in place, it showed no signs of resisting.
The portal was like quicksand, slowly pulling it in.
You have no proof Ganondorf can do that to anyone, he has done it once.
Ultimecia will have eaten Ganondorf, Hyrule, and the Goddesses in a few seconds.
I still don't see what's so slow about it. Ganondorf opened the thing as soon as he started talking. It formed pretty much instantly. And what stops Nihilus from throwing stuff in?
Anyway,
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Agahnim is Ganon's alter ego that he used to cross the seal placed on him when he couldn't break it.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Dude.Almost EVERY boss dies that way. 😐
Ganondorf did not set it on fire, nor was it held in place, it showed no signs of resisting.
The portal was like quicksand, slowly pulling it in.
You have no proof Ganondorf can do that to anyone, he has done it once.
Ultimecia will have eaten Ganondorf, Hyrule, and the Goddesses in a few seconds.
Ok, that's a flat-out lie. The only two bosses to die that way are Gohma and Phantom Ganon; both of which are created by Ganondorf as opposed to having already existed like Volvagia or Bongo Bongo.
2 out of 9 = "almost EVERY boss"? Lol, no.
1. Body levitates whilst flaming.
2. Monologue by Ganondorf. Body is still aflame.
3. Ganondorf claims that he will banish PG.
4. PG reacts in a panic and disentigrates after Ganondorf claims he is going to do something. Note that the fire was seemingly not affecting the phantom before this.
Ultimecia is a failure. Also, this discussion isn't relevant to the thread.
Originally posted by NemeBro
It's own accord? Because it has certainly shown extensive freedom of will, amirite? It has yet to speak, all it has ever done was fight Link whenever the **** Ganondorf wanted it to. It has no freedom, it is completely under Ganon's control.Throw him into it? The portal appeared right one Phantom Ganon, and slowly pulled it in, after it was already dying. Even assuming that he can do it to others, an ability never displayed, it is so laughably slow do you believe anyone of the power in this thread while healthy will be taken in?
Sure, he has TK, but Albedo and a TCed Ultimecia are too powerful for it to matter, and Nihilus' TK makes Ganondorf's look like a joke, his TK makes most other gaming characters look pretty crappy.
Magical failsafe? If it failed him, it was cursed to be put between dimensions?
No but we should assume it can do ahead and do it to anything he wants despite never doing so, right?
No, but it does laugh and thus does possess the capacity. And yeah, it takes Ganon's orders, but he doesn't control it's every movement. That's why when it's beaten, it isn't Ganon's failure, it is his pawn's failure.
Actually after taking damage it is shown that Phantom Ganon drops to the ground, yet it was levitating above the portal. So it was clearly being lifted by Ganon, who said he was going to banish it to the gap between dimensions. How about that, Ganon's being all badass sitting in his castle however far away casually TKing his defeated minion in preparation for dropping it casually into the portal to the gap between dimensions.
Yes, I do believe it can work.
I don't think so, otherwise it would have happened naturally instead of Ganon announcing what he decided to do.
Don't need to be a dick about it.
Originally posted by LLLLLink
Ok, that's a flat-out lie. The only two bosses to die that way are Gohma and Phantom Ganon; both of which are created by Ganondorf
Morpha is another creation of Ganondorf
1. Body levitates whilst flaming.
2. Monologue by Ganondorf. Body is still aflame.
3. Ganondorf claims that he will banish PG.
4. PG reacts in a panic and disentigrates after Ganondorf claims he is going to do something. Note that the fire was seemingly not affecting the phantom before this.
The fact that it was on fire doesn't prove that the banishment causes his creations to burn. It was gonna happen anyway.
Ultimecia is a failure.
A failure? Right, because we all know that giving life to animate objects and subconscious thoughts, sealing away powers, stopping bullets, possessing people, inventing powerful monsters and magic by just pulling it out of your own thoughts, stopping time, instantly bringing a group of people to a near-death state, fusing with one's creation to become stronger, and absorbing a compressed combination of all time, space, and existence doesn't amount to anything 🙄
Seriously, Ganon is nothing compared to TC Ultimecia and Testament Albedo.