Ragna the Bloodedge vs. Akuma

Started by No End N Site3 pages
Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
Yeah, it's almost an Nternet rule that Gouki would rape any mainstream fighting game character that's not Orochi or an A Class DS. Every new game has him do something spectacular. If only Capcom would reveal 2 us, what his true powers are like.

SF is back. Just give it time, all will be explained soon.

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
Yeah, it's almost an Nternet rule that Gouki would rape any mainstream fighting game character that's not Orochi or an A Class DS. Every new game has him do something spectacular. If only Capcom would reveal 2 us, what his true powers are like.
List of mainstream fighting game characters who would beat Gouki:

Slayer, Sol Badguy, Eddie (Maybe), Justice, Kliff Undersn (Prime), That Man, Raven, and prolly more I forgot. Granted all are from Guilty Gear, a considerably more powerful verse, but point still stands. 🙂

Originally posted by NemeBro
List of mainstream fighting game characters who would beat Gouki:

Slayer, Sol Badguy, Eddie (Maybe), Justice, Kliff Undersn (Prime), That Man, Raven, and prolly more I forgot. Granted all are from Guilty Gear, a considerably more powerful verse, but point still stands. 🙂

I disagree with that list completely and I'm sure any person knowledgeable of the world of SF N' Gouki would 2. But, it's your opinion. I wont laugh at U for 4 it. I want 2, very much so.

Originally posted by NemeBro
List of mainstream fighting game characters who would beat Gouki:

Slayer, Sol Badguy, Eddie (Maybe), Justice, Kliff Undersn (Prime), That Man, Raven, and prolly more I forgot. Granted all are from Guilty Gear, a considerably more powerful verse, but point still stands. 🙂

you forgot Ky Kiske

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
I disagree with that list completely and I'm sure any person knowledgeable of the world of SF N' Gouki would 2. But, it's your opinion. I wont laugh at U for 4 it. I want 2, very much so.
Gouki could not hit a single person in my list.

Gouki an island buster? Justice destroys countries.

Originally posted by Cyner
you forgot Ky Kiske
Was hesitant to add Ky, though you are prolly right.

Yup, I'm pretty sure that list is wrong, too. I'll laugh for you...lulz! Akuma wouldn't even need to go Shin. 'Should read about dude on TV tropes. The funny thing is, what they say is true. They don't make shit up when talkin' about'im. That's what makes it a great read.

I might leave O'Aku alone for while, tho. He's up there wit the DS and Jur in that we don't know his current power level or his limitations at the moment, but what he has shown is crazy as hell. If CFE is any sort of indication of what Shin is like, then holy hell. Dude came AFTER Pyron. I might ask Capcom about that.

I think Aku, holdin' back, is a B+ Makai beast. He'd prolly end up wit Xeil and crew at their house. You gotta see Xeil, he is badass. Belial too, he looks so phuckin' ugly and cool. 'Guy seals off his top arms by crossin'im and he is engulfed in flames.

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Originally posted by NemeBro
Gouki could not hit a single person in my list.

Gouki an island buster? Justice destroys countries.

That's correct, Gouki destroyed an island while holding back his full strentgh over a decade B4 SF3. His hair was still totally red back N those days. U didn't no that?

I've played GG 4 yrs now and never once heard that claim. Show me where Justice destroyed a country. Smells like BS, 2 me.

Originally posted by No End N Site
Yup, I'm pretty sure that list is wrong, too. I'll laugh for you...lulz! Akuma wouldn't even need to go Shin. 'Should read about dude on TV tropes. The funny thing is, what they say is true. They don't make shit up when talkin' about'im. That's what makes it a great read.

I might leave O'Aku alone for while, tho. He's up there wit the DS and Jur in that we don't know his current power level or his limitations at the moment, but what he has shown is crazy as hell. If CFE is any sort of indication of what Shin is like, then holy hell. Dude came AFTER Pyron. I might ask Capcom about that.

I think Aku, holdin' back, is a B+ Makai beast. He'd prolly end up wit Xeil and crew at their house. You gotta see Xeil, he is badass. Belial too, he looks so phuckin' ugly and cool. 'Guy seals off his top arms by crossin'im and he is engulfed in flames.

I try not 2 B sarcastic or "smart" win talking 2 others I don't agree with. It helps keep down hostility, that's Y I didn't lol, rofl, lmao or any of that other grabage.

How am I going 2 C any of those pics, we all no U don't have a scanner. And what Xactly is "TV tropes"?

Originally posted by No End N Site
1. I seen explosions, not vaporize mountains. Common sense tells you that the beast can only be harmed through magic. They try everything until 6 heroes with magic come along and help humans create magic weapons that suddenly work on the beast. Come on, pal. No one in BB who uses magic has shown to be able to use it to replicate Akuma like feats, yet it can kill the black beast?

2. "Hakumen was given most of the credit by Jubei". For 1, it's clear Jubei was just bein' humble. 2, how does this mean that Haku basically soloed the beast? 3, we know the beast didn't croak 'til they made the weapons for the humans to kill it. So "bah" to all that.

3. Oh wow, the world in a fictional universe can't stand up to a creature. That means true power. Hell in the UDON comic, Bison used the P.Drive once and the entire world surrendered and allowed it's fate to be decided on Bison's terms. Until I see the black beast split Ayers rock and casually destroy an island, talk to me. What bomb in this world can split Ayers rock or blow up an island and trigger volcanoes? It's even been shown that an A Bomb only destroys like 4 of 17 ships around it in test. Akuma destroys ships with his legs. Akuma does all this holding back. Let's not start implyin' limits on Akuma where there is no clearly evidence of any.

4. Your tryin' to make it seem like Ragna can naturally beat Akuma, when to stand even a 1% of a chance, he needs help form an outside force, the Grimoire, which is still aint enough to get past 10% of Akuma. That was my point. Answered that other question already.

5. Lol, I think otherwise...

6. "My assertion of how weak he is" is in comparison to Akuma. That's all it is. He would step to Akuma and be obliterated. Then Akuma would go on and on about how weak he was for usin' the Grimoire and not his own fists. Ragna unleashes the Grimoire as a super, and it clearly drains his energy. It's fake, it's not goin' to be perfect. And it's pretty clear that Haku has his own delusions about Ragna. Half the cast believe in the myth that Ragna is the black beast.

7. Nu was not immortal. Time kept rewindin' itself some how (forgot how).

8. And in both cases, your power scalin' is incredibly flawed. Ragna does not use the Grimoire all willy nilly cuz it can kill him. He aint just "holding back".

9. "YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY ****ING NOTHING ABOUT THE PLOT OF BLAZBLUE."

I don't know shit about BB cuz I don't believe the lame ass, bullshit claims you make up and can continue to make cuz the plot is so damn vaugue? This here is very funny

"ALL the endings happened, as well as all the paths. Do you wonder how this is possible? It is because time has been continuously looping, all endings and paths are technically canon."

I want you to prove this stupid ass claim right here. If all the endings were canon, they wouldn't have a true ending path.

1. Just checked, vaporising was me misremembering, mountains were demolished. Oh, and it is also important for one to note that it was only small fractions of the blast that were destroying mountains, Rachel's Tsukiyomi scattered it. So you admit you do not have any evidence the Beast has a weakness to magic? Good to know. Maybe the combination of magic and tech was just really powerful? Also, Tager, when unleashing his Ars Magus, can carry his opponent into space and then slam them back onto Earth, creating a huge crater.

2. Jubei acknowledged he did his part, but still gave Hakumen most of the credit as the star of the show, Hakumen who was the confirmed leader of the Six Heroes. Good job continuing to fail at getting my point. I won't repeat myself.

3. Lol, the world that was confirmed to be much like ours and have command of powerful nuclear weapons like ours before the Dark War you mean? The Black Beast was confirmed to have easily withstood the combined forces of the planet and its nuclear arms, you can't downplay this feat. Ayers Rock is roughly five miles wide, and only like a thousand feet tall. A common Hydrogen Bomb has power of up to 10 megatons. Tsar Bomba output approximately 1.4% of the power output of the sun, though admittedly that was exceptional, having an output of 50 megatons. Gouki can output enough force to rival maybe a low yield H Bomb, assuming DSZ's calcs were correct and his punch struck with 4 megatons of force. I only go by what Gouki has shown to do, and keep in mind I am not saying he does not win.

4. And all of Gouki's power was from an outside force, the Satsui no Hadou, without throwing away his humanity he would be not nearly as powerful as he is now so he obviously is weak and sucks ass. 🙂 I never said that Gouki will even lose simpleton, quite the contrary. The Grimoire is well within Ragna's ability to use.

5. That's cool, not all of us can be right, some have to be wrong, like you.

6. Only we don't know Ragna's true power, only that it is implied to be very high. I don't give two shits what it does within the gameplay, he was not drained at all when using it in the STORY. It is not as powerful as either of the true ones, no. Hakumen is delusional? So apparently you are a better source on the origin of the Black Beast than the one who led the fight against it? Lol. Myth? It was shown to be true, you have no evidence at all to support your claim.

7. You're right, time did continue looping... Except Ragna clearly remembers having "killed" her before. 😐 If it were due to the loop, then Ragna would not remember, the only ones aware of the loop were Rachel, Valkenhyn, Terumi, and maybe Jubei.

8. Prove it can kill him. 😐

9. Vague for someone who does not understand it.

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuur uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh bikuz oll t3h pathz wurr duh difurrant lupez en tymez? The true ending is just the path that broke the loop.

Originally posted by NemeBro
1. Just checked, vaporising was me misremembering, mountains were demolished. Oh, and it is also important for one to note that it was only small fractions of the blast that were destroying mountains, Rachel's Tsukiyomi scattered it. So you admit you do not have any evidence the Beast has a weakness to magic? Good to know. Maybe the combination of magic and tech was just really powerful? Also, Tager, when unleashing his Ars Magus, can carry his opponent into space and then slam them back onto Earth, creating a huge crater.

2. Jubei acknowledged he did his part, but still gave Hakumen most of the credit as the star of the show, Hakumen who was the confirmed leader of the Six Heroes. Good job continuing to fail at getting my point. I won't repeat myself.

3. Lol, the world that was confirmed to be much like ours and have command of powerful nuclear weapons like ours before the Dark War you mean? The Black Beast was confirmed to have easily withstood the combined forces of the planet and its nuclear arms, you can't downplay this feat. Ayers Rock is roughly five miles wide, and only like a thousand feet tall. A common Hydrogen Bomb has power of up to 10 megatons. Tsar Bomba output approximately 1.4% of the power output of the sun, though admittedly that was exceptional, having an output of 50 megatons. Gouki can output enough force to rival maybe a low yield H Bomb, assuming DSZ's calcs were correct and his punch struck with 4 megatons of force. I only go by what Gouki has shown to do, and keep in mind I am not saying he does not win.

4. And all of Gouki's power was from an outside force, the Satsui no Hadou, without throwing away his humanity he would be not nearly as powerful as he is now so he obviously is weak and sucks ass. 🙂 I never said that Gouki will even lose simpleton, quite the contrary. The Grimoire is well within Ragna's ability to use.

5. That's cool, not all of us can be right, some have to be wrong, like you.

6. Only we don't know Ragna's true power, only that it is implied to be very high. I don't give two shits what it does within the gameplay, he was not drained at all when using it in the STORY. It is not as powerful as either of the true ones, no. Hakumen is delusional? So apparently you are a better source on the origin of the Black Beast than the one who led the fight against it? Lol. Myth? It was shown to be true, you have no evidence at all to support your claim.

7. You're right, time did continue looping... Except Ragna clearly remembers having "killed" her before. 😐 If it were due to the loop, then Ragna would not remember, the only ones aware of the loop were Rachel, Valkenhyn, Terumi, and maybe Jubei.

8. Prove it can kill him. 😐

9. Vague for someone who does not understand it.

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuur uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh bikuz oll t3h pathz wurr duh difurrant lupez en tymez? The true ending is just the path that broke the loop.

I coulda sworn I said to ignore that damn post I made til' I verify your claims and back mine. Fail...You just like to argue don't you? Way to be jerk of an ******* of infinite proportion.

Originally posted by NemeBro

4. And all of Gouki's power was from an outside force, the Satsui no Hadou, without throwing away his humanity he would be not nearly as powerful as he is now so he obviously is weak and sucks ass. 🙂 I never said that Gouki will even lose simpleton, quite the contrary. The Grimoire is well within Ragna's ability to use.

And way to show you know shit about an integral part of SF. Satsui no Hadou is not an outside force, it's just a name for usin' your chi to kill.

Surge of Murderous Intent. You can't get on my level just cuz you played a few games of SFIV.

Originally posted by No End N Site
Yup, I'm pretty sure that list is wrong, too. I'll laugh for you...lulz! Akuma wouldn't even need to go Shin. 'Should read about dude on TV tropes. The funny thing is, what they say is true. They don't make shit up when talkin' about'im. That's what makes it a great read.

I might leave O'Aku alone for while, tho. He's up there wit the DS and Jur in that we don't know his current power level or his limitations at the moment, but what he has shown is crazy as hell. If CFE is any sort of indication of what Shin is like, then holy hell. Dude came AFTER Pyron. I might ask Capcom about that.

I think Aku, holdin' back, is a B+ Makai beast. He'd prolly end up wit Xeil and crew at their house. You gotta see Xeil, he is badass. Belial too, he looks so phuckin' ugly and cool. 'Guy seals off his top arms by crossin'im and he is engulfed in flames.

Slayer could handle everyone in Streetfighter. At once. While holding back. That Man is at Slayer's level, and Raven is just below it. Tvtropes, while awesome, is hardly a ****ing official source. Characters like I-No in GG could kill Gouki before he was born.

Originally posted by No End N Site
I coulda sworn I said to ignore that damn post I made til' I verify your claims and back mine. Fail...You just like to argue don't you? Way to be jerk of an ******* of infinite proportion.

And way to show you know shit about an integral part of SF. Satsui no Hadou is not an outside force, it's just a name for usin' your chi to kill.

Surge of Murderous Intent. You can't get on my level just cuz you played a few games of SFIV.

1. Nah.

2. Despite the fact that he is often criticised in SFIV for his reliance on it? The Satsui no Hadou is not just fighting to kill, it increases your power, at the cost of your humanity, supported by many characters.
Played a few games of SFIV? Gtfo.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Ayers Rock is roughly five miles wide, and only like a thousand feet tall. A common Hydrogen Bomb has power of up to 10 megatons. Tsar Bomba output approximately 1.4% of the power output of the sun, though admittedly that was exceptional, having an output of 50 megatons. Gouki can output enough force to rival maybe a low yield H Bomb, assuming DSZ's calcs were correct and his punch struck with 4 megatons of force. I only go by what Gouki has shown to do, and keep in mind I am not saying he does not win.

A nuke can't destroy Ayers Rock, burn the shit of it, maybe. A nuke can't even sink an island. There are videos on the net of nukes being tested. Have a look before you just through weak ass claims at me. Try reading about this shit, too.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Slayer could handle everyone in Streetfighter. At once. While holding back. That Man is at Slayer's level, and Raven is just below it. Tvtropes, while awesome, is hardly a ****ing official source. Characters like I-No in GG could kill Gouki before he was born.

BS that has yet to be proven and mixed in a retard swirl of A>B>C logic. Akuma would phuck Slayer over wit 1 hand and 1 leg. I-no can't just hop through time at will needs aid to do so. Not to mention she has admitted to it being too dangerous. And I told Remo to look at TVtropes cuz it was funny, not for the sake of arguin' wit you about this dumb shit you make up as you go. GTF off your high horse. BS that has yet to be proven and mixed in a retard swirl of A>B>C logic. Akuma would phuck Slayer over wit 1 hand and 1 leg. I-no can't just hop through time at will, she tech aid to do so. Not to mention she has admitted to it being too dangerous.

Originally posted by No End N Site
A nuke can't destroy Ayers Rock, burn the shit of it, maybe. A nuke can't even sink an island. There are videos on the net of nukes being tested. Have a look before you just through weak ass claims at me. Try reading about this shit, too.

BS that has yet to be proven and mixed in a retard swirl of A>B>C logic. Akuma would phuck Slayer over wit 1 hand and 1 leg. I-no can't just hop through time at will needs aid to do so. Not to mention she has admitted to it being too dangerous. And I told Remo to look at TVtropes cuz it was funny, not for the sake of arguin' wit you about this dumb shit you make up as you go. GTF off your high horse. BS that has yet to be proven and mixed in a retard swirl of A>B>C logic. Akuma would phuck Slayer over wit 1 hand and 1 leg. I-no can't just hop through time at will, she tech aid to do so. Not to mention she has admitted to it being too dangerous.

1. Gee, that may be because instead of being a slicing or colliding force it's a giant ****ing explosion.

2. Why would I get off my high horse? I am clearly above you.

Sol Badguy can dodge lightning, fight with and best Justice, who destroyed Japan and can reach space in seconds, and Slayer toys with Sol and everyone else. It does not take a genius to figure this out.

Originally posted by NemeBro
1. Nah.

2. Despite the fact that he is often criticised in SFIV for his reliance on it? The Satsui no Hadou is not just fighting to kill, it increases your power, at the cost of your humanity, supported by many characters.
Played a few games of SFIV? Gtfo.

1. Hell yeah.

2. No, he is criticised for for bein' a heartless bastard who kills everbody all the time. I posted the REAL def from the SFEC and it pretty much says it's what happens when you lose control of your chi while parcticin' Ansatsuken. WTF does losin' your humanity so that you can kill at full power without regret have to do wit it bein' an outside force? You don't know shit, dwag. Sorry...

Originally posted by NemeBro
1. Gee, that may be because instead of being a slicing or colliding force it's a giant ****ing explosion.

It aint more powerful than a punch from Akuma.

Originally posted by NemeBro
2. Why would I get off my high horse? I am clearly above you.

I hope your not serious, cuz if you really are this much of a dick, I'm gonna start ignorin' you.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Sol Badguy can dodge lightning

Right, so can anyone who fights Blanka or Viper.

Originally posted by NemeBro
best Justice, who destroyed Japan

Bull shit.

Originally posted by NemeBro
and can reach space in seconds

wow....against a guy who can shoot a blast out into space almost instantaneously whilst holddin' back.

Originally posted by NemeBro
and Slayer toys with Sol and everyone else. It does not take a genius to figure this out.

Proves nothin' in a VS fight. It's bull shit, get over it. Stop wankin and throwin' these dudes in threads where they don't belong.

Originally posted by No End N Site
1. Hell yeah.

2. No, he is criticised for for bein' a heartless bastard who kills everbody all the time. I posted the REAL def from the SFEC and it pretty much says it's what happens when you lose control of your chi while parcticin' Ansatsuken. WTF does losin' your humanity so that you can kill at full power without regret have to do wit it bein' an outside force? You don't know shit, dwag. Sorry...

2. Kills everybody all the time? He never fights someone weaker than him, will stop a fight if he has an unfair advantage like with Gen, shit, who HAS Gouki been confirmed to kill? Goutetsu? Bison, who came back? Some unlucky submariners who were killed as collateral?

Originally posted by NemeBro
2. Kills everybody all the time? He never fights someone weaker than him, will stop a fight if he has an unfair advantage like with Gen, shit, who HAS Gouki been confirmed to kill? Goutetsu? Bison, who came back? Some unlucky submariners who were killed as collateral?

He killed Gotetsu, they thought he killed Gouken, thought he killed Bison, SFEC states once he started usin' the Dark Hadou he unleashed a wave of carnage, he's obiously killed no name people not mentioned in the story. Ryu and Ken don't know Akuma has phuckin code of honor, all they know is, he's a phuckin' muderer. 'That's why they critcise'im.'

@Neme

If I remember correctly, Justice beat Sol because he wouldn't use his gear form but Ky destroyed Justice, something not even Kliff in his Prime could do. I'm sure that Sol using his Gear powers would annihilate Justice though. Slayer is still too bamf for them though.