Fatal Five vs The Tyrant

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Ummmm I just explained myself pretty clearly didn't I? Odin didn't deal with the team Tyrant did first of all, and second he didn’t do so easier at all. Tyrant was one shotting them left and right and he faced much tough competition. Let me break it down since reading comprehension isn't one of your strong suits…. Thanos fought Odin for panel after panel and never once backed down or thought he was in any danger of dying. In fact he decided to walk right through one of Odin's powerful attacks with his weapon he brought out to put Thanos down. Thanos decides to walk right through the most potent blast of the fight and didn't hesitate in doing so, nor fear dying nor thought he was defeated against Odin. Compare that with when Thanos fought Tyrant and you tell me who Thanos thought was superior in power? Which is why I said basing this solely on Thanos and his impression of power levels, he clearly thought Tyrant was more powerful. True or no? Hopefully simple logic and deduction doesn't allude you this much.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
I didn't know insults were a form of civil debating. You base your entire summation of Tyrant on how Odin and Tyrant fought Thanos? Odin one shotted Silver Surfer and Drax. Drax is comparable to Gladiator but far tuffer. He did have the power gem after all boosting his durability. Tyrant actually had a beam match with Gladiator. Not a good look for Tyrant. The silly Ganymede actually hurt Tyrant. Gany couldn't even Hurt Silver Surfer. Odin was fighting in his home of Asgard. Do you actually think he pulled out his Galaxy busting power in the wrealm of all his people? Come on? It should be obvious that he didn't. And Odin had not a scratch on him. Odin is superior to Tyrant in every way.

You're basing Odin fighting a superior team on him one shotting Surfer and Drax… really? Tyrant faced and dealt with easily the following herald level people… Surfer, Brb, Jack of Hearts, Gladiator, Ganymede, Morg and Terrax. Easily. He was one shotting them left and right… Gladiator matched Tyrant initial eye beams.. then Tyrant got serious and Gladiator was put down easily. Ganymede people had been fighting Tyrant for thousands of years… her weapon I'm sure had an impact on him for that very reason. Regardless, it made him yelp.. and she was promptly one shotted after. Brb hammer bounced right off Tyrant with no effect and one shotted. Point is… those people are superior to the heralds Odin fought and this is without question.. yet you made your silly statement. He further took on Thanos one v. one and Well-Fed Galactus one v one. That makes your statement even more ludicrous than it already was. Lastly, and for the second time…. Judging SOLELY by Thanos and his actions and how the fights played out… Isn't it logical and clear that Thanos felt like Tyrant was more powerful? Answer that simple basic question.. based on the two fights and Thanos actions, not some other feats of Odin which have nothing to do with what I'm asking nor what Thanos clearly thought and felt from both.

He three shotted Gladiator.

Glads got up from the first shot. Odin could've put him down in a single attempt, as he's at most as durable as Surfer.. And Surfer ended up taking even more effort for Tyrant to put down.

Originally posted by cdtm
He three shotted Gladiator.

Glads got up from the first shot. Odin could've put him down in a single attempt, as he's at most as durable as Surfer.. And Surfer ended up taking even more effort for Tyrant to put down.

Glads is weak to magic so the point is as moot as they come.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You're basing Odin fighting a superior team on him one shotting Surfer and Drax… really? Tyrant faced and dealt with easily the following herald level people… Surfer, Brb, Jack of Hearts, Gladiator, Ganymede, Morg and Terrax. Easily. He was one shotting them left and right… Gladiator matched Tyrant initial eye beams.. then Tyrant got serious and Gladiator was put down easily. Ganymede people had been fighting Tyrant for thousands of years… her weapon I'm sure had an impact on him for that very reason. Regardless, it made him yelp.. and she was promptly one shotted after. Brb hammer bounced right off Tyrant with no effect and one shotted. Point is… those people are superior to the heralds Odin fought and this is without question.. yet you made your silly statement. He further took on Thanos one v. one and Well-Fed Galactus one v one. That makes your statement even more ludicrous than it already was. Lastly, and for the second time…. Judging SOLELY by Thanos and his actions and how the fights played out… Isn't it logical and clear that Thanos felt like Tyrant was more powerful? Answer that simple basic question.. based on the two fights and Thanos actions, not some other feats of Odin which have nothing to do with what I'm asking nor what Thanos clearly thought and felt from both.

Originally posted by Bentley
Glads is weak to magic so the point is as moot as they come.

Originally posted by Bentley
Glads is weak to magic so the point is as moot as they come.

Since when?

Glads isn't Superman. (And by that, I mean I'm not aware of any writer claiming he has the "Weak as anyone else against magic" that some writers play on Superman, vs the "Supes is especially weak against magic" argument..)

Anyways, the point was to debunk that Tyrant was one shotting everyone, which clearly wasn't the case. Plus there's still the direct Surfer comparison.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I gave the FF the victories over Thanos.. However, that was based on Validus doing most of the work… Question though on Validus… is he able to Teleport or travel at LS? If not, what is stopping either Thanos or Tyrant from easily bfring him? Anyways, back on topic… It would take all 5 to beat Thanos.. it took only one person named Tyrant to get the better of him. I look at it this way… Thanos doesn't back down very often at all and frequently goes looking for fights with people above him or teams of HH. He didn't back down from Odin or think he should leave for fear of dying… Yet, he knew if he stayed Tyrant would kill him.. just like he knew Galactus or Omega would've killed him. Judging by solely Thanos I think it's safe to say he felt like Tyrant was above Odin in power. That and Tyrant's showings are a decent benchmark for how powerful he is. Now answer this… Would you give this team the victory over Odin? I wouldn't. Thus, I wouldn't give them the victories over Tyrant either.

When Tyrant fought those guys, he was playing with them. No one has even seen Tyrant exert all of his might in a comic, therefore my vote is with Tyrant dismantling the Fatal Five.

That only follows if Odin was going all out.

Kind of impossible to prove one over the other. All we can go by, is what happened on panel.

And the fact is, Odin handled Surfer a lot easier than Tyrant did.

Not to mention, even Thanos never once laid a hand on Odin, yet he, Morg, and Ganymede made Tyrant cry out in pain.

Originally posted by Stoic
When Tyrant fought those guys, he was playing with them. No one has even seen Tyrant exert all of his might in a comic, therefore my vote is with Tyrant dismantling the Fatal Five.

Originally posted by cdtm
That only follows if Odin was going all out.

Kind of impossible to prove one over the other. All we can go by, is what happened on panel.

And the fact is, Odin handled Surfer a lot easier than Tyrant did.

Originally posted by cdtm
He three shotted Gladiator.

Glads got up from the first shot. Odin could've put him down in a single attempt, as he's at most as durable as Surfer.. And Surfer ended up taking even more effort for Tyrant to put down.

The elbow ended Gladiator with ease... Three shot.. huh... you're counting Tyrant increasing his eye beams and overpowering Glads as two seperate shots? Nah. At most he two shot glads but really it took one elbow and Glads was out. Surfer was put down with ONE shot.. he just got back up later in the battle after Tyrant got done one shotting others. only to be dealt with easily again.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
And Drax is Superior Physically to EVERYONE and he got one shotted by Odin without Odin breaking a sweat.

Drax is superior to Glads physically... nah. Sorry.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Drax is superior to Glads physically... nah. Sorry.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
Wait, you are voting based upon what we haven't seen?

I recall Tyrant wanting to keep them alive so that he could eat them like you and I would eat an orange. This leads me to believe that he was handling them with kids gloves. It was evident that Tyrant was toying with them, Beta Ray Bill hit him with everything he had, and he smiled at him. In the Stormbreaker mini Bill also hit a small planet with similar force and turned it into dust, so to make light of the guys that Tyrant was toying with is or should be a no no.

Originally posted by Stoic
I recall Tyrant wanting to keep them alive so that he could eat them like you and I would eat an orange. This leads me to believe that he was handling them with kids gloves. It was evident that Tyrant was toying with them, Beta Ray Bill hit him with everything he had, and he smiled at him. In the Stormbreaker mini Bill also hit a small planet with similar force and turned it into dust, so to make light of the guys that Tyrant was toying with is or should be a no no.

Tyrant could too.

Only, at full power. This Tyrant was a long way from full power.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
We will have to Disagree. The Heralds Odin One shotted were pretty much as powerful or more than the one's Tyrant fought. Drax is more durable than any of the heralds as the power Gem proves that time and again, and Odin one shotted Drax. Tyrant Did not one shot Surfer or Gladiator. Odin also didn't bust any Galaxies fighting Thanos. A black Hole can bust galaxies. I recall one hurting Thanos. Thanos was hurt by far less than Galaxy busting power from Odin. Tyrant didn't hurt Thanos AT ALL. From that I can conclude that Odin is more powerful than Tyrant. Tyrant Also foought Galactus with thousands of years prep and intimite knowlege of Galactus. You seriously don't think I would think that in anyway makes Tyrant as powerful as Galactus do you? Their first fight lasted Eons. And Tyrant ended up being depowered. And you want me to look beyond logic and think that Tyrant stalemated Galactus and almost won in one single conflict AFTER HE WAS DEPOWERED? non-sense.

The fact is ON PANEL… DP Tyrant was getting the better of a well fed Galactus.. period and end of story. That isn't debatable and there is no ambiguity there. It happened. You may not like it since he was weaker than his original version but sorry it happened. Furthermore, you act like DP was weak and should be on threat to Galactus… Funny because that is contradicted by what we saw in the comic and clearly different than what Galactus thought of Tyrant. We've seen Galactus very arrogant in battle and hardly ever specifically feeds to face a foe. He's usually hungry or doesn't think enough of whoever he's fighting to care to feed. Yet with Tyrant.. he backed down they first met and let Tyrant take Morg. Fact and hardly very confident he could take him. In fact he said… if he fought him it would destroy too much around them to risk it. Hmmmm clearly Galactus didn't think he was weak and easy and clearly thought he was powerful. Finally he goes out of his way to feed on a planet ripe with nutrients and even comments that he hasn't felt this strong in ages… Him doing so.. in fact hurt Tyrant and made him weaker…. hmmmm it seem Galactus and the writers clearly thought Tyrant was a threat and had Galactus act accordingly. Do you not agree or are you going to continue to make stuff up about Tyrant being weak and no threat or concede the point?

He did one shot surfer… surfer only got up at Tyrant was dispatching others… that still is one shot. Then he gets dealt with easily again once he does get up. Now you're saying because Odin didn't bust Galaxy busting attacks on Thanos this proves something and disputes what I'm saying… hardly. I could say the same thing.. Tyrant didn't unleash his full power either and thus could've ended it in one shot… Easy to make up stuff that prove or mean next to nothing. ANSWER THIS QUESTION WITHOUT your nonsense. Thanos fights Odin and NEVER backs down or fears dying by fighting Odin. Fought Odin for much longer than he fought Tyrant. All facts correct? Now Thanos fights Tyrant and very quickly realizes he is no match or Tyrant and even says very clearly for even the slow people… I had to leave or else I would've died. You can't get any more clear than that. So finally based on the very clear and obvious facts… Who did Thanos view as the bigger threat and the more powerful foe?

Originally posted by lightyeargee
Hulk is Superior to Glads. We've seen that. And Drax is Superior To Hulk. Hulk could do nothing with Drax. Drax had the PG which Drax subconsiously drew on to amp his stats indefinitely. Why do you think Thor was such a beast in Blood and Thunder? The PG. Odin Put Drax down with one shot.

I would normally agree with you, but Drax could only access the power of the Power Gem on a subconscious level. Had you said Warlock or Thanos I would be in full agreement. Drax was also below a rampaging Hulk in terms of power without the gem. Warlock stated that Drax was as powerful as a non adrenalin powered up Hulk without the gem, and as I stated earlier, Drax never had full control of the gem, because of his retarded brain development.