Originally posted by -Pr-
He can resist Sinister just fine. He's dealt with telepaths on that level more than once.Apocalypse is a bit tough, but i see him beating him, and then Adam. With Hal and Alan it's a toss up, imo.
And there have been times where he has been mindraped/mind controlled(Despero, Protex, Nudge, Crucifer, etc)
Originally posted by TheTyrant
And there have been times where he has been mindraped/mind controlled(Despero, Protex, Nudge, Crucifer, etc)
he's resisted despero. he's also resisted j'onn and manchester black.
protex was pre upgrade pre several upgrades actually.
when was nudge?
crucifer was both magic and telepathy, iirc. and he had help.
he has more instances of resisting than being controlled.
Originally posted by -Pr-
he's resisted despero. he's also resisted j'onn and manchester black.protex was pre upgrade pre several upgrades actually.
when was nudge?
crucifer was both magic and telepathy, iirc. and he had help.
he has more instances of resisting than being controlled.
1- But he has been mind raped and mind controlled by Despero before. Unless those instances were pre-upgrade too?
2- Point taken.
3- Nudge was the girl that helped Crucifer take control over Superman in the first place. Her control was shaky before Crucifer bit Supes, but after that Supes was completely under Crucifer's control.
4- I'm not an avid Superman collector, so I wouldn't know.
Originally posted by TheTyrant
1- But he has been mind raped and mind controlled by Despero before. Unless those instances were pre-upgrade too?2- Point taken.
3- Nudge was the girl that helped Crucifer take control over Superman in the first place. Her control was shaky before Crucifer bit Supes, but after that Supes was completely under Crucifer's control.
4- I'm not an avid Superman collector, so I wouldn't know.
i don't recall when despero controlled him. are you talking about the superman batman issues?
3. so they worked together. thats what i thought it was.
yes, he has been controlled in the past, but he does have more examples of resistance than being beaten. plus, resisting despero while fighting off despero and a mind controlled JLA is just one of his pretty impressive showings.
Originally posted by -Pr-
i don't recall when despero controlled him. are you talking about the superman batman issues?3. so they worked together. thats what i thought it was.
yes, he has been controlled in the past, but he does have more examples of resistance than being beaten. plus, resisting despero while fighting off despero and a mind controlled JLA is just one of his pretty impressive showings.
Nevermind. I just looked back. Superman was one of the only members of JLA that was not mind controlled by Despero.
The thing is, Nudge took control of Superman by herself(Hal or John I can't remember, resisted her power) before Crucifer came into play. And she did it easily too, but I admit, her control was weak.