Swordmanship Rankings

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Originally posted by dev10n
most of what you just said is nonsense
That's because you can't grasp it. The world is slow motion to blade? It's every bit as slowmotion to anyone with metahuman or even peak human reflexes - his feats arent better than some peak humans'. Their reaction times are shorter than baseline humans, that's all this means. The idea, initially put forward by you, that this somehow makes him a top contender in this rank and that he is being underrated is nonsense because we're debating skillset only, not physical/neural stats. If we were debating those along with skills, he'd still not be a top contender because WW (who has close to lightspeed reflexes) and some others would still be above him in reflexes and speed. He's also not particularly old, another nonsensical argument for why he is so good you put forward, when compared to some of the others in the list.

It's just the theory of special relativity people. The faster you are moving the slower a clock will tick relative to your internal clock. You guys are arguing over minutia, Blade doesn't move fast enough for time dilation to be a significant talking point. Almost everyone on this list has better speed feats anyway.

Originally posted by 753
That's because you can't grasp it. The world is slow motion to blade? It's every bit as slowmotion to anyone with metahuman or even peak human reflexes - his feats arent better than some peak humans'. Their reaction times are shorter than baseline humans, that's all this means. The idea, initially put forward by you, that this somehow makes him a top contender in this rank and that he is being underrated is nonsense because we're debating skillset only, not physical/neural stats. If we were debating those along with skills, he'd still not be a top contender because WW (who has close to lightspeed reflexes) and some others would still be above him in reflexes and speed. He's also not particularly old, another nonsensical argument for why he is so good you put forward, when compared to some of the others in the list.
DUDE READ WHAT YOU JUST WROTE ALOT ABOUT NOTHING

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It's just the theory of special relativity people. The faster you are moving the slower a clock will tick relative to your internal clock. You guys are arguing over minutia, Blade doesn't move fast enough for time dilation to be a significant talking point. Almost everyone on this list has better speed feats anyway.
LOL finally someone on your side

Blades speed doesn't really matter here

Why are people saying speed and and reflexes don't matter in a SWORDFIGHT if take away speed and reflexes youll have people just hacking at each other with a sword

We are saying here it is useless because it is otherwise Wonderwoman pretty much stomps everybody at the same time blind folded 😐. This is a ranking based on skill with the sword or can you not read?

Originally posted by iceman24567
We are saying here it is useless because it is otherwise Wonderwoman pretty much stomps everybody at the same time blind folded 😐. This is a ranking based on skill with the sword or can you not read?
how do you judge skill with a sword

Strength and speed have nothing to do with my thread. Technical skill was the question.

The same way you judge MMa fighters skill with their fists? Feats duh.

Originally posted by iceman24567
The same way you judge MMa fighters skill with their fists? Feats duh.
Well when you have feats you have the fact of speed and reflexes everytime LOL YOU GUYS ARE A LITTLE SLOW

We are the slow ones? 😐

Originally posted by iceman24567
We are the slow ones? 😐
IT APPEARS I SAID THAT 😆 💃 ✅ 😄 😛

Originally posted by dev10n
DUDE READ WHAT YOU JUST WROTE ALOT ABOUT NOTHING
Learn how to read then. Anyway, the posts above have already reafirmed it: This is a thread about technique and skill, not sheer speed and enhanced reflexes. It's the same concept 'as pound for pound h2h fighting skill'. One way or the other, blade wouldn't be in the top ranking, because he is neither skilled nor fast enough for it.

Originally posted by 753
Learn how to read then. Anyway, the posts above have already reafirmed it: This is a thread about technique and skill, not sheer speed and enhanced reflexes. It's the same concept 'as pound for pound h2h fighting skill'. One way or the other, blade wouldn't be in the top ranking, because he is neither skilled nor fast enough for it.
YOUR TYPING ALL THIS STUFF AND STILL NOT SAYING ANYTHING speed and reflexes are always a contributing factor to technique and skill no matter if your a comic book hero or the best P4P fighter.... WHY WAS MUHHAMAD ALI THE BEST REFLEXES ABOVE THE REST WHY DID THEY CALL MIKE TYSON IRON MIKE AMAZING K.O POWER IF YOU TAKE AWAY EVERY FIGHTERS SPEED, STRENGTH AND REFLEX ALL OF THEIR FIGHTS WOULD BE 50/50 I DIGRESS THIS IS A COMIC BOOK HERO SWORD FIGHT NONE OF THEM HAVE ANY PARTICULAR TECHNIQUE ANYWAY 😆 😎 😆

you people are idiots.

How many times does it have to be said that this isn't about damage one can inflict with a sword, it's about skill. In other words, take powers away and rank them based on how good they are using a sword... not how fast they use one, or what they can cut with one.

Ras >>>>>>>>> Blade.

Originally posted by marwash22
you people are idiots.

How many times does it have to be said that this isn't about damage one can inflict with a sword, it's about skill. In other words, take powers away and rank them based on how good they are using a sword... not how fast they use one, or what they can cut with one.

Ras >>>>>>>>> Blade.

OMFG HOW DO YOU JUDGE SKILL 😕 😕 😕 😕 😕

Originally posted by dev10n
YOUR TYPING ALL THIS STUFF AND STILL NOT SAYING ANYTHING speed and reflexes are always a contributing factor to technique and skill no matter if your a comic book hero or the best P4P fighter.... WHY WAS MUHHAMAD ALI THE BEST REFLEXES ABOVE THE REST WHY DID THEY CALL MIKE TYSON IRON MIKE AMAZING K.O POWER IF YOU TAKE AWAY EVERY FIGHTERS SPEED, STRENGTH AND REFLEX ALL OF THEIR FIGHTS WOULD BE 50/50 I DIGRESS THIS IS A COMIC BOOK HERO SWORD FIGHT NONE OF THEM HAVE ANY PARTICULAR TECHNIQUE ANYWAY 😆 😎 😆

Sigh... Do you understand the concept of weight classes in boxe? They exist so the weight advantage isn't the determining factor in a fight. Champions of light and middle weight classes might be just as skilled if not better than Ali or Tyson, but they'd likely loose to them because of their mass advantage. You can't really claim that tyson is better than a mid weight champion, that's why the 'kilo for kilo' or 'pond for pound' expression exists. A better fighter is the one that can do the most with his physical stats, not the one who can punch harder.

The same applies here. It's about skill, not superpowered damage output. Not that this matters, because blade isn't good enough with or without his metahuman powerset to be top dog here. WW would destroy everybody else in the thread in under a second.

Don't bother replying.

LOL DONT GET MAD AND QUIT CONTRADICTING YOURSELF PLEASE READ YOUR COMMENTS THOROUGHLY

Originally posted by 753
Sigh... Do you understand the concept of weight classes in boxe? They exist so the weight advantage isn't the determining factor in a fight. Champions of light and middle weight classes might be just as [B] skilled if not better than Ali or Tyson, but they'd likely loose to them because of their mass advantage. You can't really claim that tyson is better than a mid weight champion, that's why the 'kilo for kilo' or 'pond for pound' expression exists. A better fighter is the one that can do the most with his physical stats, not the one who can punch harder.

The same applies here. It's about skill, not superpowered damage output. Not that this matters, because blade isn't good enough with or without his metahuman powerset to be top dog here. WW would destroy everybody else in the thread in under a second.

Don't bother replying. [/B]

LOL DONT GET MAD AND QUIT CONTRADICTING YOURSELF PLEASE READ YOUR COMMENTS THOROUGHLY