Jill Valentine vs. Leon S. Kennedy

Originally posted by Nemesis X
It's funny how you bring up tea whenever I mention something that makes you look silly.

And tasty.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
No.

Jill did cartwheels on zombies before Leon had a game to himself.

Originally posted by killermover
You do know, Leon is just a goverment spy, not a BSAA, Stars team mate. Which Stars Training > President Training.

Jill did cartwheels on zombies before Leon had a game to himself.

STARS was part of the police =l

As soon as Jill manages to outsmart a room full of lethal laser detectors, let me know. Until then, Leon takes it. Same for when she manages to actually hold her own against a superhuman in a knife fight. Better knife skillz ftw.

Originally posted by killermover
You do know, Leon is just a goverment spy, not a BSAA, Stars team mate. Which Stars Training > President Training.

Jill did cartwheels on zombies before Leon had a game to himself.

STARS was just a SWAT force equivalent ermm

Also Leon served as part of a spec ops force before he was assigned as a guard for the president. That being said.

Leon's training >>>>>>>>> Jill's (especially at pre-RE5)

Besides the BSAA was nothing more than something targetted against bio-weapons mainly. The only thing they would've learn there is about zombies and there wasn't much to teach Jill by then time they formed that.

Originally posted by First_Tsurugi06
As soon as Jill manages to outsmart a room full of lethal laser detectors, let me know. Until then, Leon takes it. Same for when she manages to actually hold her own against a superhuman in a knife fight. Better knife skillz ftw.

Wesker is the equvilant of Neo who danced "MJ matrix style" on Chris numerous times, and Jill dodged him point blank.

Originally posted by killermover
She went "Ayane" on Wesker and then did DOA moves on his chin when playing the Lost in Night Nightmares level.

Wesker is the equvilant of Neo who danced "MJ matrix style" on Chris numerous times, and Jill dodged him point blank.

I only remember Jill doing roundhouse kicks and tackling Wesker when he was distacted.

While I don't doubt the dodging of gunfire, Jill doing that in closerange is gameplay and she only dodges before the bullet is fired (just like Sheva, Chris, and Spiderman).

Leon dodged a thrown knife from an enhanced mutant and a security laser system. Both are better dodge feats than Jill's.

Originally posted by First_Tsurugi06
As soon as Jill manages to outsmart a room full of lethal laser detectors, let me know. Until then, Leon takes it. Same for when she manages to actually hold her own against a superhuman in a knife fight. Better knife skillz ftw.

Jill dodged a room full of lasers in Umbrella Chronicles 😬

But Leon still wins of course.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
Jill dodged a room full of lasers in Umbrella Chronicles 😬

But Leon still wins of course.

I wasn't aware that there are QTE scenes in the rail shooter.

There are and you should go play the game.

there are actually a lot from what i remember in umbrella chronicles.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
There are and you should go play the game.

Or I can watch it on Youtube because if it isn't RE4 or RE2, it better be scary.

I am going with Leon

Lets look at this this way:

Leon was able to complete his mission in RE4 with a little help from Ada. Leon and Ada never had to do a double team against a horde of gandanos in RE4. Most of the time it was Leon by himself protecting Ashley while Ada was helping in the background. There was only that one time he double teamed with Louis against the entire village.

Jill had trouble surviving by herself in RE and RE3 Nemesis. In RE, Barry had to save Jill from becoming a Jill Sandwich and in RE3 Carlos had to find the antidote for Jill. In Umbrella Chronicles and Lost in Nightmares, Jill needed Chris' help all the time. In RE3 there were times where Carlos (AI controlled) double teamed with Jill to survive; not sure if she was double teaming with Barry in RE1. However, if you go by Umbrella Chronicles then Jill always teamed up with Chris the entire time/ Carlos in RE3 story.

Bottomline: Jill is more likely to be paired up with a partner in her endeavors, while in RE4 Leon almost went solo with occasional help from Ada, Luis, and Mike. Leon occasionally had to drag the dead weight Ashely around who barely helped him except for driving and operating cranks. Now lets factor in that gandanos could use weapons, guns, and could communicate while zombies could not. Leon went through tougher ordeals with less help, so Leon has the advantage based on comparing feats.

Leon had to be saved from Saddler twice and would haved been killed by the Los Plagas virus if it wasn't for luis saving his butt by sacraficing his own life. You guys are overrating Leon here.

Jill took down Nemesis alone without out help and IMO Nemesis > Saddler.

Krauser would sodomize Nemesis w/ that arm attack, wouldn't he? Doesn't it turn you to paste or something?

No.

Krauser's arm has no feats outside of gameplay.

Furthermoar, Nemesis would just regenerate.

Though Krauser, even with no uber arm, would still make Nemesis his *****.

I still felt cool killing Mr. Salvador with that arm, though. That was special.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
Jill dodged a room full of lasers in Umbrella Chronicles 😬

But Leon still wins of course.

Got a video so I can at least compare? I mean, Leon's laser dodging scene would make the Prince of Persia say "Hot damn", and one of the Princes can crawl from space to space across a ceiling.

EDIT: Actually I just watched it now, but frankly, Leon still shits on it. Hell, Chris' dodging was more impressive than her's. Not to mention the lasers he was put up agains seemed a helluva lot more dangerous and plentiful.

And then there's the rooftop scene in Degeneration wher he did free-running that'd send post-AC2 Desmond right back to Ezio's birth.

Anyone with high reflexes like Leons can do the same. Jill is on his level because she's already a bullet timer and a acrobatic contortionist. Sheva, Ada, Claire etc etc can reach leons flexibilty since Chris and the other guys are buffs. Exceptions are Krauser, Wesker, and of course Leon.

Originally posted by killermover
Anyone with high reflexes like Leons can do the same. Jill is on his level because she's already a bullet timer and a acrobatic contortionist. Sheva, Ada, Claire etc etc can reach leons flexibilty since Chris and the other guys are buffs. Exceptions are Krauser, Wesker, and of course Leon.

Jill a bullet-timer? 😆

I don't even consider Chris one since he dodges Wesker's gun before it fires, just like Jill.