Mortal Kombat 9

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Ah, okay. I figured that's what you had. And it's only been laggy for me when I did ranked matches with certain randoms. Normally I have a pretty good connection, so lag shouldn't be an issue..

Sometime this Wednesday sound good to you? My gamertag's the same username I have here btw, but with a space in between instead of an underscore. If you decide to add me, lemme know who you are I guess.

As of now, I have no other plans for Wednesday so if I feel like it, then I guess so. Maybe at night.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
* implying that random live action adaptations such as that have to make sense or even matter when it comes to the actual Mortal Kombat continuity

It was still an interesting episode and take on the character nonetheless. With the realism elements added to the table, which was mentioned at the very beginning of the episode, you should've known that not everything about Raiden or how strong he actually is would be the exact same as from the games and such.
You guys are treating it like it's canon material that's supposed to tie in with everything else; it's clearly not, for the most part. If you're that unsatisfied with the characters' display of power in these adaptions so as to keep making this big a fuss about it, then just don't watch them.

Hiding behind the "realism" argument doesn't cut it when we're dealing with a god of thunder, because that's completely contradictory. Clearly realism has been thrown out the window. The episode completely defeats the purpose of having a character like Raiden in the MK universe. The "protector of Earthrealm" gets owned by a couple of orderlies? C'mon son.

You can argue that the episode was interesting, which I'd probably agree with. But you can't argue that the portrayal of Raiden was a joke.

Maybe they should make a "realistic" Superman movie next where he's held captive by al-Qaeda in a cave somewhere. durpalm

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Raiden's normally not supposed to enter a "Mortal" Kombat tournament anyway in the first place since he's a god. I guess in that episode or adaptation, it showed Raiden wanting to compete in MK by taking the form of a human/mortal, thus retaining little of his thunder god powers, which was why he was so susceptible to ordinary human attacks and such. When he was first made human so he could enter the MK tournament (in this adaptation), I guess he became injured when the Elder Gods sent him down to earth for some reason. Regardless, it made him more relateable to the real world, but at the same time, was something unreal. Hence the mixture of fantasy and realism used for his episode. Kinda like in the MK Rebirth trailer where Baraka was a doctor/surgeon, and Reptile was someone born with a real life disease.

At least that's my take on it all. I agree though that Raiden needing that girl's help to escape at the end still made no sense. With the condition Raiden was in though, and as the form of a human, he still put up a hell of a lot resistance. More than any normal human ever could at least. At full strength, I doubt a few nurses would be that Raiden's "limit", though that's beside the point.

Regarding the latest game, Raiden's usual attitude was rather cautious, but I'm not sure calm was the right word.. With how he was enlightened by his future self in order to prevent Armageddon though, it made sense how Raiden was the way he was, personality-wise. After confronting Quan Chi in the Netherrealm, he realized that letting Shao Kahn appear to win would be the only way to ultimately prevent Armageddon, as the Elder Gods would finally be forced to interfere and punish Kahn themselves for breaking their rules, which did not happen in the original timeline since Kahn kept getting defeated by Liu Kang. In the new timeline, Raiden had to electrocute Liu to a crisp so as to prevent him from challenging Kahn again, and having Armageddon eventually happen a few games later. He also killed Motaro in the new timeline, among plenty others he defeated. He was no coward; I don't know where you're getting that from..

As for your last paragraph, well we still haven't really seen what Shao Kahn in the Legacy series is even capable of. From what I saw of him in the Kitana & Mileena episode though, he looked basically like a normal human, so he could possibly be a weaker version of his game incarnate as much as this series' Raiden is. Ya never know until we see him fight...

sorry but those are only your speculations you are trying to imply things that were never showed or happened, it was never showed or even implyed that raiden was sent by the elder gods not to mention your speculation of him being injured, as we saw when raiden got up and beat those 2 nurses he was just fine only problem is when the black guy caught him raiden was helpless, then the 3 nurses just overpowered him

you are saying its about realism? how can a walking thunder god be realistic? he is suppose to be the protector of earth realm and the thunder god and it wasnt even in his powers to escape and he needed some girl to kill him? please

in the game perhaps he lets shao kahn slap him at the end because that was his plan but at the opening movie you see shao kahn doing the same thing to raiden and at that point raiden had no interest in getting hit because it was the final stand between good and evil and raiden knew that if he will lose shao kahn is taking over earth realm and yet raiden was just standing and getting biatch slapped by shao kahn so there was no excuse to that

raiden was really pathetic overall in this game, when shang tsunt betrayed them raiden was trying to punch him shang just dodged his punch like nothing , basically raiden recently is portrayed more and more as worthless in mortal kombat as far as a fighter and i think it sucks

i agree shao kahn looks like ordinary human being in the legacy series but it still doesnt change the fact raiden got humiliated as a thunder god and as a fighter because even if the new aproach was to present him as a more human he is still suppose to be a trained fighter and should easily overcome 3 nurses and a doctor otherwise he really doesnt have much to look for in the mortal kombat tournament ( unless the deside to make all the fighters as lame as raiden)

what they are doing to raiden reminds me of what writers did to beast from the x-men , at first beast was a cool powerhouse and a very inteligent scientist but the writers desided for some reason that if he is a professor he cant be a brute powerhouse anymore so they made him worthless in battle with all his strength and abilities, the same stupid thing is happening to raiden, for some reason the developers desided that raiden isnt suppose to be much of a fighter because he is more of a mentor to the earth realm warriors... so now the developers are making and probably will make raiden as the smart sage mentor that is worthless in the battle field

beast is still a brute powerhouse. ask danger.

Originally posted by -Pr-
beast is still a brute powerhouse. ask danger.

nah man, beast since his cat like form did 4 things that portray him as a fighter, beat danger, beat wolverine, beat snow queen, and throw spiral... but thats about it he never displayed real abilities and thats in his new and more enhanced form, ape beast was a punching bag

Originally posted by platinums
nah man, beast since his cat like form did 4 things that portray him as a fighter, beat danger, beat wolverine, beat snow queen, and throw spiral... but thats about it he never displayed real abilities and thats in his new and more enhanced form, ape beast was a punching bag

I honestly don't agree, but that's me.

beast is inconsistent , like when sabretooth joined the x-men before his big fight with wolverine he was chained and was jumping on beat and beast was all scared and fell backwards while in his ape form he handed sabretooth his ass , sometimes beast is portrayed as a fighter but the majority of times i am sorry and i like him and all but he is portrayed as a complete ******* because he is just standing and watching his friends fight thats what he does most of the time

i play with liu kang on PS3 i challenge anyone here to a fight

Originally posted by Bro SMASH
As of now, I have no other plans for Wednesday so if I feel like it, then I guess so. Maybe at night.

Originally posted by batdude123
Hiding behind the "realism" argument doesn't cut it when we're dealing with a [b]god of thunder, because that's completely contradictory. Clearly realism has been thrown out the window. The episode completely defeats the purpose of having a character like Raiden in the MK universe. The "protector of Earthrealm" gets owned by a couple of orderlies? C'mon son.

You can argue that the episode was interesting, which I'd probably agree with. But you can't argue that the portrayal of Raiden was a joke.

Maybe they should make a "realistic" Superman movie next where he's held captive by al-Qaeda in a cave somewhere. durpalm [/B]

Originally posted by platinums
sorry but those are only your speculations you are trying to imply things that were never showed or happened, it was never showed or even implyed that raiden was sent by the elder gods not to mention your speculation of him being injured, as we saw when raiden got up and beat those 2 nurses he was just fine only problem is when the black guy caught him raiden was helpless, then the 3 nurses just overpowered him

you are saying its about realism? how can a walking thunder god be realistic? he is suppose to be the protector of earth realm and the thunder god and it wasnt even in his powers to escape and he needed some girl to kill him? please

in the game perhaps he lets shao kahn slap him at the end because that was his plan but at the opening movie you see shao kahn doing the same thing to raiden and at that point raiden had no interest in getting hit because it was the final stand between good and evil and raiden knew that if he will lose shao kahn is taking over earth realm and yet raiden was just standing and getting biatch slapped by shao kahn so there was no excuse to that

raiden was really pathetic overall in this game, when shang tsunt betrayed them raiden was trying to punch him shang just dodged his punch like nothing , basically raiden recently is portrayed more and more as worthless in mortal kombat as far as a fighter and i think it sucks

i agree shao kahn looks like ordinary human being in the legacy series but it still doesnt change the fact raiden got humiliated as a thunder god and as a fighter because even if the new aproach was to present him as a more human he is still suppose to be a trained fighter and should easily overcome 3 nurses and a doctor otherwise he really doesnt have much to look for in the mortal kombat tournament ( unless the deside to make all the fighters as lame as raiden)

As far as the opening scene of the new game, Shao Kahn had apparently won Armageddon, as shown by the Blaze-like aura around him, and his strength increased tenfold according to his MKA ending, so Raiden probably didn't fight back there because he knew it would be futile/useless.

In the new timeline, Raiden heals Jax, shocks Mileena unconscious, kills Motaro, defeats Scorpion along with the souls of the deceased warriors Sindel killed in the Netherrealm, defeats Liu Kang and burns him to death his electricity... You call that pathetic?

Yeah, that's true about the last part.

Regardless of the inconsistencies with Raiden in Legacy or in general though, this will prolly always be my favorite version of him. woot

YouTube video

Raiden with a hammer = badass like Thor

Raiden is the shit in MK9.

Can't see how anyone can dare say he was pathetic.

Like you said, some fans are just very hard to please. 😬

Btw, just got the classic costume skin pak for 400 points. It was worth it for the old Scorp, Sub, and Reptile fatalities more than it was the retro costumes themselves, IMO. awesome Still perplexed as to why there wasn't one for Smoke, though.

Originally posted by Bro SMASH
As of now, I have no other plans for Wednesday so if I feel like it, then I guess so. Maybe at night.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
All right, sounds good.

Originally posted by batdude123
Maybe they should make a "realistic" Superman movie next where he's held captive by al-Qaeda in a cave somewhere. durpalm

Hell yeah, and al-Qaeda is all: "You have to build us an ultimate weapon, Supahmahn, one that'll crush our enemies! Har Har Har Har!"

So he gets all pissed and he builds a really rad suit of out spare parts they gave him to make the ultimate weapon so he can escape.

Originally posted by batdude123
Hiding behind the "realism" argument doesn't cut it when we're dealing with a [b]god of thunder, because that's completely contradictory. Clearly realism has been thrown out the window. The episode completely defeats the purpose of having a character like Raiden in the MK universe. The "protector of Earthrealm" gets owned by a couple of orderlies? C'mon son.

You can argue that the episode was interesting, which I'd probably agree with. But you can't argue that the portrayal of Raiden was a joke.

Maybe they should make a "realistic" Superman movie next where he's held captive by al-Qaeda in a cave somewhere. durpalm [/B]

going by the john byrne model (which is the rumour), they might.

Huh..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHgpEKqLdqA

Originally posted by Scythe
Hell yeah, and al-Qaeda is all: "You have to build us an ultimate weapon, Supahmahn, one that'll crush our enemies! Har Har Har Har!"

So he gets all pissed and he builds a really rad suit of out spare parts they gave him to make the ultimate weapon so he can escape.

Originally posted by -Pr-
going by the john byrne model (which is the rumour), they might.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime

Yeah, it is somewhat speculation, but do you have a better reason/explanation as to why Raiden was injured when he fell down to earth in that small crater? He certainly looked injured anyway.

As far as the opening scene of the new game, Shao Kahn had apparently won Armageddon, as shown by the Blaze-like aura around him, and his strength increased tenfold according to his MKA ending, so Raiden probably didn't fight back there because he knew it would be futile/useless.

In the new timeline, Raiden heals Jax, shocks Mileena unconscious, kills Motaro, defeats Scorpion along with the souls of the deceased warriors Sindel killed in the Netherrealm, defeats Liu Kang and burns him to death his electricity... You call that pathetic?

i didnt find him injured i mean he was teleported to earth terminator style by it doesnt look like he just felt and he was just fine when he got up and fought those nurses... i mean he is a god after all he isnt suppose to have a broken leg or something he didnt look injured and was fine while fighting

in the opening scene you dont see the aura around him you see it only at the end which can be described as a raging aura or what ever and if it was the case then in the opening movie it would be stated that shao kahn is impowered by the energy he got from defeating blaze or something because they tell the story at the beginning, so nothing was stated or implying that he was stronger and it wasnt even stated that he won the armageddon so again you bring alot of speculations into this

raiden was presented purly in this game as he was strong as a god but he didnt have the fighting spirit that most of the fighters presented he didnt have the will to fight shao kahn, he was hasitating when fought liu kang... he looked like some liberal life supporting jerk while he is suppose to be the god of thunder that defends the earth but likes to kick some ass

He hesitated to fight Kahn because he knew it was futile. He hesitated to fight Liu Kang because Liu Kang was a good guy who pretty much idolized him and was his strongest ally. He did kickass. uhuh

Although he was mostly a moron with his visions and he could have sent himself a clearer message lol.