Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
In what world does pathetic=adorable?To a rapist I guess. 😐
There's nothing pathetic about her.
You must not know anything about Hinata. If you did, you'd know she's one of the strongest people in the entire series. She just doesn't show it off (real strength doesn't need to be). Plus she's very sweet and kind so yes, she's very adorable.
Originally posted by chilled monkey
There's nothing pathetic about her.You must not know anything about Hinata. If you did, you'd know she's one of the strongest people in the entire series. She just doesn't show it off (real strength doesn't need to be). Plus she's very sweet and kind so yes, she's very adorable.
Prove it.
You can't prove it, because it's not actually there. It's cognitive dissonance that makes you think that. Naruto is a "story" that is supposed to have a happy ending, thus when you see a character in said story that shows a weak spirit but is a good person we automatically assume that the character will eventually dispel their chains of weakness and their great strength will shine, because that's what happens in stories. It is in the same vein that we all assume that Sasuke by the end is going to redeem himself and become good even though at the moment he's a cold heartless ****face. That's what happens in stories like this.
However, Sasuke is not a good guy, and he has not redeemed himself, right now he is a bastard, and right now Hinata sits their ****ing trembling behind a fence instead of walking up to the person she loves and telling him as such, to the point where it's not even rational anymore but resembling a mental illness. You can sit there and explain to me how stories work and how she is has this hidden strength all you want, but the fact of the matter is that the only display of strength she has shown is when she risked her life for her beliefs, and that is something that every ninja in the series has done already. Good for her, but that doesn't translate into being "one of the strongest in the series". Not by a long-shot.
Originally posted by RE: BlaxicanYou do realise her last scene was her attacking the strongest ninja known to Konoha who had just destroyed the entire village while confessing to Naruto, right? 😐
right now Hinata sits their ****ing trembling behind a fence instead of walking up to the person she loves and telling him as such, to the point where it's not even rational anymore but resembling a mental illness.
All this while knowing she was probably going to die.
Originally posted by NemeBro
You do realise her last scene was her attacking the strongest ninja known to Konoha who had just destroyed the entire village while confessing to Naruto, right? 😐All this while knowing she was probably going to die.
Yea, she may not have many scenes, but two of them involve facing down ninja she knows will kick her butt and/or kill her. The first one causing her severe organ damage, which did not of course prevent her from fighting, and the second was *Pain*, who had already beaten down Sage Naruto in front of her.
She's not the strongest ninja around but she's badass as heck when she needs to be.
That said, I quite like Sakura when she's being badass too, but Hinata's shown quite will to leap into odds she cannot possibly beat with a smile on her face.
Also? Anko.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Prove it.
Okay.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
You can't prove it, because it's not actually there.
Yes I can and it is.
* Striving endlessly to improve herself even though her own father has been doing everything he could to destroy her self-esteem for practically her entire life.
How many lesser people would have just quit and accepted they were the failure they'd been told they were? Even if Naruto inspired her, she made the decision to never quit herself. He didn't make the choice for her. He just opened the door, she walked through it herself.
* Not killing her scumbag cousin with the cursed seal (which would have been in self-defence and thus perfectly understandable. No-one would have faulted her). That took real courage and strength of character.
* Not to mention refusing to quit against said scumbag cousin and actually doing pretty well against him.
As others have pointed out:
* Telling Naruto she loves him (that alone is an extremely brave thing, especially for a shy person).
* Plus, going up against an ungodly powerful foe to protect the person she's in love with, fully expecting to die.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
right now Hinata sits their ****ing trembling behind a fence instead of walking up to the person she loves and telling him as such
Do you actually follow this series at all?
Since if you did, you'd know she HAS told him she loves him.
Originally posted by NemeBro
You do realise her last scene was her attacking the strongest ninja known to Konoha who had just destroyed the entire village while confessing to Naruto, right? 😐All this while knowing she was probably going to die.
Well said.
Originally posted by Q99
Also? Anko.
Yeah, Anko is awesome too.
Originally posted by NemeBroI covered that part already.
You do realise her last scene was her attacking the strongest ninja known to Konoha who had just destroyed the entire village while confessing to Naruto, right? 😐All this while knowing she was probably going to die.
* Striving endlessly to improve herself even though her own father has been doing everything he could to destroy her self-esteem for practically her entire life.How many lesser people would have just quit and accepted they were the failure they'd been told they were?
Not impressive at all considering that that is the inspiration for an overwhelming amount of the Ninja in the series.
Not killing her scumbag cousin with the cursed seal (which would have been in self-defence and thus perfectly understandable. No-one would have faulted her). That took real courage and strength of character.
Except not really, because Neji is absolutely her superior in every possible way that involves fighting. She never even got the chance to not kill him. Thinking she's anywhere near his level proves that you're a complete Hinata fanboy, no offense.
And that aside, that "scumbag" you're talking about, had an infinitely harder life than she's ever had. His personal weakness is at least somewhat justified, compared to hers.
* Telling Naruto she loves him (that alone is an extremely brave thing, especially for a shy person).
Not really, considering that, as you said, she figured that she was going to die. People do things that are not in character for them when they're in a life threatening situation. It doesn't reflect on her.
* Plus, going up against an ungodly powerful foe to protect the person she's in love with, fully expecting to die.
Something many of the nina in the series would, and have done. Hell, Sakura did the same thing in the Chuunin exams. It's not uncommon in the series.
So, you've yet to explain why she's "one of the strongest in the manga". Try again...
Hinata > Sakura.
She's honest, modest, kind, compassionate and overall an more stable and mature person than Sakura. Just because she's not ***** Badass and Tough doesn't make her weak. I mean she is shy and soft spoken, but her strength comes from her heart not her fists and mouth.
ANd your overexxagerating her flaws Blaxican, She's not that timid anymore, she's always cheerful and determined now. Her core character is being softspoken in situations but it doesn't hinder her growth and confidence herself.
It's not her fault Kishimoto doesn't do anything with her like he does Shika.
Hmmm. I'm trying to remember scenes where Sakura is not modest, honest, compassionate and stable and mature in Shippuden. Having trouble thinking of any, aside from the obvious comic relief scenes.
As for the rest of your post, well, I'll believe it when I see it.
And before anyone brings up her relationship with Sasuke, try to keep in mind that if Naruto ever went evil, Hinata would probably slit her wrists before killing him, if given the chance. It's a stupidity that all the women in the series seem to share.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Except not really, because Neji is absolutely her superior in every possible way that involves fighting. She never even got the chance to not kill him. Thinking she's anywhere near his level proves that you're a complete Hinata fanboy, no offense.
Who's the 'fanboy' now? If you had watched the show you'd know she held her own pretty well.
Pus, you know, the seal is activated by a hand gesture. She had ample opportunity to use it.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
And that aside, that "scumbag" you're talking about, had an infinitely harder life than she's ever had. His personal weakness is at least somewhat justified, compared to hers.
Yeah he was a scumbag. Whatever problems he had were not her fault, plus you know, he tried to MURDER his own cousin just because he had a tantrum as he wasn't getting the easy win he expected.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Hmmm. I'm trying to remember scenes where Sakura is not modest, honest, compassionate and stable and mature in Shippuden. Having trouble thinking of any, aside from the obvious comic relief scenes.
Yeah in Shippudan, long after the show had started. Hinata was modest, honest, compassionate and stable and mature from the start.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
As for the rest of your post, well, I'll believe it when I see it.
You must be blind then.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
And before anyone brings up her relationship with Sasuke, try to keep in mind that if Naruto ever went evil, Hinata would probably slit her wrists before killing him.
Clearly you know absolutely nothing about Hinata.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
So, you've yet to explain why she's "one of the strongest in the manga". Try again...
I've already done so, but you are clearly unreasonable. You are going on ignore.
Originally posted by killermover
Hinata > Sakura.She's honest, modest, kind, compassionate and overall an more stable and mature person than Sakura. Just because she's not ***** Badass and Tough doesn't make her weak. I mean she is shy and soft spoken, but her strength comes from her heart not her fists and mouth.
ANd your overexxagerating her flaws Blaxican, She's not that timid anymore, she's always cheerful and determined now. Her core character is being softspoken in situations but it doesn't hinder her growth and confidence herself.
It's not her fault Kishimoto doesn't do anything with her like he does Shika.
Once again I take my hat off to you. You are just amazing.
Especially this part here:
Originally posted by killermover
I mean she is shy and soft spoken, but her strength comes from her heart not her fists and mouth.
Exactly, and that is REAL strength.
Who's the 'fanboy' now? If you had watched the show you'd know she held her own pretty well.
Actually it just looked like she was. He was pwning her hard in that fight.
.... Which was admittedly followed by her being awesome with Heroic Willpowah! Though I'm on the NaruSaku sid personally. Blax is right, imagine trying to have a conversation with her. She'd faint in 30 seconds.
Originally posted by NephthysShe can talk to Kiba, Neji, etc etc/ more than 10 seconds and coperate in team missions with her giving intell on the enemy, she's not that socially retarded dude.
Actually it just looked like she was. He was pwning her hard in that fight..... Which was admittedly followed by her being awesome with Heroic Willpowah! Though I'm on the NaruSaku sid personally. Blax is right, imagine trying to have a conversation with her. She'd faint in 30 seconds.
It's Naruto that gets her nervous.