The Walking Dead · TV Talk Forum

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah, he doesn't get it's okay for him to prefer the Governor, without attacking any new and more popular villain. Instead of shouting out "battlezone" every time a new villain comes along.
He also doesn't get that the effectiveness of a villain (or any character) doesn't just come down to whose better at H2H. His favorite can be just that without having to be the ultimate fighting champion Lol.

I don't like characters because they are popular. That's a Robtard thing. Hell, even Galan had his mind made up based on the comics prior to hence why he's ok with this annoying tv character.

I didn't say that's all it came down to I said I'd back my guy vs his guy. Everyone wanted to say how badass he is so I simply said prove it by the end of his retarded run. The difference between me and others is I'll take it the distance most others won't because they lack the conviction I have.

Negan can be reasoned with but the Governor can't.

Adam Grimes Devil On Your Shoulder

Only because Negan is smart and knows people is more useful alive. 👆

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Only because Negan is smart and knows people is more useful alive. 👆

Nah, he wants more shit and is compelled by greed despite his common sense screaming this Rick guy hates my guts so why am I keeping him alive when I have all these resources already. As long as you bring him 50 percent of your stuff and he kills a man or two he will let you kill 20 or so of his own men. 😂

Adam Grimes Devil On Your Shoulder

But he knows he will eventually get more resources that he would ever had if he just simply killed Alexandria.

And he definitely neutered Rick, that's pretty clear.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
But he knows he will eventually get more resources that he would ever had if he just simply killed Alexandria.
And he definitely neutered Rick, that's pretty clear.

So you really think the stuff he got from Rick is better than the stuff his loyal group of men could bring in outweighs the possibility of Rick coming after him.

Nah, Rick is just biding his time because he realizes he can't take his army on. Once that becomes possible Negan better get ready he's going to lose more than resources. Negan is really stupid and he as well as you will learn Rick will bite back.

Adam Grimes Devil On Your Shoulder

I agree he's underestimating Rick, but remember he doesn't know shit about what our survivors have gone through. Until now he only had to bully two communities full of pansies who wouldn't fight back.

Changing the topic a bit, Gregory is every bit as disgusting as his comic counterpart.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
I agree he's underestimating Rick, but remember he doesn't know shit about what our survivors have gone through. Until now he only had to bully two communities full of pansies who wouldn't fight back.
Changing the topic a bit, Gregory is every bit as disgusting as his comic counterpart.

He has seen the look in Rick's eyes and is ignoring his own common sense. He's an idiot. I agree he isn't used to fighting against strong willed people which adds to my point Governor would break this guy. Hell, it's even getting more pathetic for Negan since he can't even break Daryl.

Darth Thor Senior Member

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
I agree he's underestimating Rick, but remember he doesn't know shit about what our survivors have gone through. Until now he only had to bully two communities full of pansies who wouldn't fight back.

To be fair he knows a little given Rick and crew took out a whole base of his. He also saw that video from when Rick first came to Alexandria where he was like "now that's a guy I wouldn't mess with". Obviously he would mess with him and own him just the same, but point is he has a decent idea of who Rick is and what Rick and crew are capable of.

Probably why he's killed 2 of his main men, and kept one more in captivity. That's all a massive blow to team Rick.

Obviously we know he should kill Rick, but from Negan's POV, Rick's probably the one whose kept Alexandria alive and so resourceful. Plus he obviously enjoys screwing with him.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah, he doesn't get it's okay for him to prefer the Governor, without attacking any new and more popular villain. Instead of shouting out "battlezone" every time a new villain comes along.
He also doesn't get that the effectiveness of a villain (or any character) doesn't just come down to whose better at H2H. His favorite can be just that without having to be the ultimate fighting champion Lol.

Exactly. These are, and have always been, his methods. Not sure why people still feed into his BS... I just find it funny(in a sad kind of way.) Pretty sure the guy has a legit mental illness. 👆

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah, Rick is just biding his time because he realizes he can't take his army on. Once that becomes possible Negan better get ready he's going to lose more than resources. Negan is really stupid and he as well as you will learn Rick will bite back.

"As you will learn"? Lol.

Those of us who have actually read the source material(and I know Adam Grimes is one of them) have knows for YEARS that Rick is eventually going to 'bite back' -- but he certainly cannot do it alone. As I mentioned earlier: obviously the show isn't going to revolve around the good guys providing for the bad guy forever -- that would be boring. There will eventually be

Spoiler:
ALL OUT WAR between the Saviors and the rest of the communities.

Thing is, you'll still try to act like Rick(and co.) fighting Negan and the Saviors, somehow diminishes Negan's status as a damn good leader... It doesn't. He will always be a better leader than a moron who killed SEVERAL of his own people during the slew of mental breakdowns he had.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Darth Thor
To be fair he knows a little given Rick and crew took out a whole base of his. He also saw that video from when Rick first came to Alexandria where he was like "now that's a guy I wouldn't mess with". Obviously he would mess with him and own him just the same, but point is he has a decent idea of who Rick is and what Rick and crew are capable of.
Probably why he's killed 2 of his main men, and kept one more in captivity. That's all a massive blow to team Rick.
Obviously we know he should kill Rick, but from Negan's POV, Rick's probably the one whose kept Alexandria alive and so resourceful. Plus he obviously enjoys screwing with him.

The comics better-explained why Negan didn't kill Rick:

...Which makes a lot of sense.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Galan007
Exactly. These are, and have always been, his methods. Not sure why people still feed into his BS... I just find it funny(in a sad kind of way.) Pretty sure the guy has a legit mental illness. 👆
"As you will learn"? Lol.
Those of us who have actually read the source material(and I know Adam Grimes is one of them) have knows for YEARS that Rick is eventually going to 'bite back' -- but he certainly cannot do it alone. As I mentioned earlier: obviously the show isn't going to revolve around the good guys providing for the bad guy forever -- that would be boring. There will eventually be
Spoiler:
ALL OUT WAR between the Saviors and the rest of the communities.
Thing is, you'll still try to act like Rick(and co.) fighting Negan and the Saviors, somehow diminishes Negan's status as a damn good leader... It doesn't. He will always be a better leader than a moron who killed SEVERAL of his own people during the slew of mental breakdowns he had.

What mental illness, Dr. Phil ? The lengths you will go to just because someone doesn't buy what you are selling. Other posters have agreed he's annoying when I said it right out of the gate whereas you'd eat his feces.

So Rick isn't neutered but grimes said he was. Pretty weird way to debate if he knows Rick will bite back. Dishonesty.

It makes him stupid unbelievably so since he slaughtered negans own guys and openly defied him in front of the others. He only wanted to kill one despite the numbers he lost. He's an idiot. He also let Carl hold a gun in defiance. Guy is an idiot. He can make all his corny lame jokes but guess what Negan you didn't break shit.

Governor rose to lead another crew because that's what great leaders do they inspire and lead. He inspired a man to follow him after strangling his brother to death. Negan gets choked out. Negan is reasonable but the Governor isn't. One bends the other doesn't.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Aww, look how angry it's getting. 😂

Buck up, big guy... I don't want to get the demons stirring in your head this early in the day. 👆

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Galan007
Aww, look how angry it's getting. 😂
Buck up, big guy... I don't want to get the demons stirring in your head this early in the day. 👆

I dismantle your post point by point with tv facts you get emotional and concede the debate. Convincing a man to follow you after killing his brother is greatness. Negan is an idiot. Rick isn't broke nor is Daryl at this point despite the army at Negan's beck and call.

😂

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Galan007
I don't want to get the demons stirring in your head this early in the day. 👆

Too late. The guy has gone completely off the rails already. 🙁

The impending murder/masturbation-spree isn't on me. 👆

cdtm Restricted

Gregory's an even bigger ******* than in the comic's! He's practically a moustach twirling villain at this point.

Didn't much like how Jesus was treated. "What's you deal, man?" "I just want to help people." "**** you! Not good enough, you've got to do more!"

Almost feels like the show's making a statement against "nice guy's" or something. I can totally see an SJW type writer out of New York City yelling at every decent guy who isn't a full on frothing activist trying to break the system...

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Galan007
Too late. The guy has gone completely off the rails already. 🙁
The impending murder/masturbation-spree isn't on me. 👆

I guess responding with logical points and citing evidence is losing it. You need to lose it more often since that's what it means to you. The Fonz(Negan) is lame and stupid.

Darth Thor Senior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
The comics better-explained why Negan didn't kill Rick:
...Which makes a lot of sense.

Yeah that explains a lot 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
Pretty sure the guy has a legit mental illness. 👆

This Also explains a lot!

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

👆 x2

quanchi112 Disney

😂

Keep running.

Robtard Senor Member

Originally posted by Galan007
Aww, look how angry it's getting. 😂
Buck up, big guy... I don't want to get the demons stirring in your head this early in the day. 👆

LoLz dude, you really triggered quanchi today and we didn't even see Negan in last night's ep. Guy's an unstable obsessive.