DD is definately faster. WC is definately stronger. And WC damage soak is greater than Punisher's. If u read, Birds of Prey, there is a issue, WC KOed Rat, 1 of the 12 Brothers of silk. And later, there were 2 more brothers who would fight WC off panel. This will when black canary takes on Rabbit. The fights would be interrupted. The brothers fighting WC would say they were winning but WC was still up and well. That says alot, BC said each Brother was close to shiva-level skill. Conner Hawke was said to struggle in his fight with one of the brothers.
DD is more skillful, but i think he would be more bruised than WC in this fight.
U shld check out WC respect thread. WC has KOed Killer Croc in a straight fight. Has the reputation having the strongest punch for a Human, Armed wrestled Atom Smasher and GL kyle and was not defeated. Slammed Grundy to KO him. Stopped Hawkman's hand with a knife mid-air.
Compare to Punisher WC fight opponent way stronger than him
Originally posted by joesha28
U shld check out WC respect thread. WC has KOed Killer Croc in a straight fight.
You do realize beating croc is not much of a feat right?
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[B]Has the reputation having the strongest punch for a Human,
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[B] Armed wrestled Atom Smasher and GL kyle and was not defeated.
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[B]Slammed Grundy to KO him.
which is absurd.........and just proves that beat grundy is not much of a feat since batman has beat him into submission before amoung other retardedly low feats.
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Compare to Punisher WC fight opponent way stronger than him
Also Punisher fights people who are vastly stronger then WC. So your entire point is moot.
I'd actually side with Ted here, but only just. Damage soak > Punisher is probably dubious just because he hasn't appeared in as many comics in recent years, but WC's damage soak is definitely disproportionate to the rest of his power level. I think he'd outlast Matt but would be a bloody pulp by the end.
The "Tale of Two Kingpins" when talking about his portrayal in different eras complicates that rebuttal leo, but I'm not dead set on giving Ted the majority. It was just my initial reaction. I'll admit to not having followed Matt as closely as JSA (though I'm also not entirely ignorant of Matt's solo book).
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The "Tale of Two Kingpins" when talking about his portrayal in different eras complicates that rebuttal leo, but I'm not dead set on giving Ted the majority. It was just my initial reaction. I'll admit to not having followed Matt as closely as JSA (though I'm also not entirely ignorant of Matt's solo book).
yeah maybe a bit. but in pretty well any incarnation, fisk is a tough bugger and at his least his damage soak is still very good. i guess i see a lot of people talking about ted's damage soak. dd can take a hell of a beating and keep on fighting as well. not that you said otherwise. 😉
Kingpin has "I can take a dozen bullets to the chest and then fall off the golden gate bridge and be fine" damage soak. Punisher has "I can eat a point blank grenade and be fine; and I can be punched hundreds of feat into the air, fall to the ground, and then get hit by a spreading car, and be fine" damage soak. I'd say they are both comfortably above Ted, he needed his extra lives to survive shit like that.
Daredevil should win pretty easily. His radar sense is too much of an advantage.