Originally posted by r0nm0n88
honestly it all depends on who kara goes after first, If she doesnt go for sue immediately she will have trouble. Considering sue looks so harmless i wouldnt be surprised if she goes after torch or thing first. Easily killing either, yet giving sue the time to take supergirl out. maybe bubble in the throat technique. But cis is on so who knows.
SG can actually last long without breathing.
Well, after watching the debates here's how I see it.
Reed: can do nothing to Kara. She'll either tie him in a super tight knot or incinirate him with her heat vision.
Johnny: his flame, even his nova blast, won't hurt Kara. He moves in slow motion to her and his strength is that of a normal human...nuff said.
Ben: Kara could stand still while Ben pounded away futily. Eventually she would get bored and KO him with one punch.
Sue: I don't see invisible shield shards being able to penetrate Kara. And since Kara can survive in the vacuum of space, air constricting bubbles will do nothing.
Give Reed prep, even an hour, and the outcome could be very different, but in an instantanious fight I don't see how the FF has a chance.
Originally posted by r0nm0n88
honestly it all depends on who kara goes after first, If she doesnt go for sue immediately she will have trouble. Considering sue looks so harmless i wouldnt be surprised if she goes after torch or thing first. Easily killing either, yet giving sue the time to take supergirl out. maybe bubble in the throat technique. But cis is on so who knows.
Supergirl is more then fast enough to go after all four before they can form a thought.
She's much, much faster.
Also, thread op didn't say CIS is on. It's off by default according to the rules.
Originally posted by the ninjakFinally someone gets it.
I know right! all you are saying that she doesn't kill and then someone gives a scenario where she kills them again. You reply. They Smack their heads.Supergirl wins this and although I stated on the first page that she kills them...I meant a brutal win.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
No.CIS is always on unless specified.
The rules don't even mention CIS. But it mentions this:
The "No PIS" RulePIS = Plot Induced Stupidity
At times, for the sake of the plot, characters that are immensely more powerful than their opponent will "job" to carry on the plot of the story, even though the characters powers and history would clearly show that they are more than capable of destroying their opponent. For this reason we have a No PIS Rule. This rule prohibits the use of such instances of PIS from being used as evidence in debates.
CIS could be interpreted as just another form of PIS, but even if not there's nothing in the rules stating CIS is on by default.
Thus, there's no more reason to believe CIS is on than to believe stipulations like Thor can't use his hammers exotic powers, or Hal only gets half a ring charge or the yellow weakness are defaulted...
Originally posted by cdtmPIS is plot.Meaning something along the lines of surfer beating thanos or cap beating thor.It happens because the plot has to advance.
The rules don't even mention CIS. But it mentions this:CIS could be interpreted as just another form of PIS, but even if not there's nothing in the rules stating CIS is on by default.
Thus, there's no more reason to believe CIS is on than to believe stipulations like Thor can't use his hammers exotic powers, or Hal only gets half a ring charge or the yellow weakness are defaulted...
CIS is character induced stupidity.Meaning heroes like supes won't kill someone because thats the way their characters acts.You debate in character meaning CIS is on unless stated otherwise.People like thanos or magus will kill because it is in character.Sue or kara won't because it's not.
Full Capacity
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.
The "character personality" rule only keeps good guys from killing where they otherwise wouldn't. But they can still fight to their max ability.
So that's not really true CIS, since they can fight at their maximum capacity, even if they don't in comics.
Originally posted by cdtmWe jst call character personality CIS.They fight to the best of their abilites but within character.Meaning that say reed wouldn't hold back against sue but also wouldn't kill her.It's not in his personality to kill.
The "character personality" rule only keeps good guys from killing where they otherwise wouldn't. But they can still fight to their max ability.So that's not really true CIS, since they can fight at their maximum capacity, even if they don't in comics.