Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Rage Rage Rage… much like most of our past debates… you again amuse me with your lack of logic and reading comprehension. Now we are adding a lack of basic math skills to the fray… :facepalm:
😂 Irony. Lack of basic math skills? Heh, I’m going to enjoy this.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
First, simple question… you feel like M. Thor could do anything to Thanos with the IG without it being PIS? You claim I'm just saying… Oooo I don't like it and thus lets disregard it. Really? So your stance is this wasn't PIS and Thor could down Thanos with the IG? To say nothing of the fact that he was giving them a chance and playing with the heroes. Whatever they did was because he allowed it… yet you use this as proof of something LOL. Jesus Rage, you make things way to easy with your piss poor arguments.
😂 Like I said before, just more whining about why a scene you don’t like is P.I.S. I’m going to pull that card soon myself. Wasn’t the Thanos camp constantly claiming he was reducing his power levels as well as his senses? There you go, an explanation that will help you sleep at night.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Second, Thanos and Thor were shown to be DIRECTLY looking at one another when Thanos pwned him with ease. That is a clear difference to what we see with Thor and Thanos. Does this concept allude you this much and that tough to grasp. You even say… it "seemed" to be going in a straight line to Thanos's chest lol. Do you know why you say seem? Because you have NO CLUE where Thor was in relation to Thanos and if Thanos was looking at Thor make that throw. You have zero evidence of either. Yet in the former… we know exactly where they were and what they were looking at. Honestly Rage, were these suppose to be counters to my arguments or said just to amuse me and make you look like a fool?
Are you really this ****ing stupid? Thor and the Thing were taken by surprise/off guard by his eyebeams. Once more: Just because being A is facing being B, it does not mean being A cannot be taken by surprise by being B. Do I have to give you a real world example for you to comprehend this?
Your reading way too much into a single word. The hammer did fly in a straight line at Thanos’ chest.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsThanos1.jpg
When the hammer returns to Masterson, we clearly see that Masterson was floating directly in front of Thanos do we not? Are you satisfied?
Like I said before, the difference in terms of surprise in those two scenes was not greater in any significant way.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Third, my statement was spot on… Thor was on his knees dazed and messed up from a couple of eye beams… It was that easy Rage, sorry. He then goes on to say…. victory is his soon enough. So when I say… he was going to finish off Thor I was spot on. The plain presentation of the comic makes that clear. I guess when reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, you actually need that spelled out for you and say… "Thanos could've killed Thor here" even though it shows Thor on his knees… dazed and messed up… and Thanos ready to deal the finishing blows… My God…
😂 I see you have no proof to back up this claim:
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
He could've killed Thor as stated in the comic had he continued. Thor was on his knees dazed and messed up.
Concession accepted. You’re a liar.
Lol, your statement was not spot on you moron. Thor was at best stunned. Either your lying once more or you have a very different definition of messed up than I do. If Thor was messed up so severely, he wouldn’t have been up and unharmed in the span of moments.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsThanosThing7.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsThanosThing8.jpg
Haha, backtracking. Thanos being moments away from delivering the finishing blow (I’m assuming a blow meant to defeat and not to kill Thor.) is far different from what you stated in the previous post.
My reading comprehension? Are all Thanos fans this moronic? Where did the comic even hint that Thanos was moments away from killing Thor? Neither the dialogue or the art suggested this.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Fourth, you are without a doubt a moron with this line of thought. Get something through your head.. It was a CLONE. That means it is INFERIOR to the real deal. It doesn't matter that the clone was powered up beyond Thanos level… wanna know why little man? First, the real Thanos by default starts of stronger, more intelligent, more capable of understanding and using powerups to the best of their ability (fact). Second, Thor also had a power up and wasn't at normal levels. Neither were at normal levels, both had powerups, and one was a clone. Honestly Rage, why do I have to constantly tool you in every thread you challenge me in? Now I want to see you say again.. that this is proof of something… If you do, that will cement the fact that you lack common sense and incompetent. This is proof of something… bwhahahahaha
😐 My god, you really are ignorant/delusional.
In the scans I posted, the only amping taking place is Thor’s physical strength (In the second set of scans.).
It being a clone (A High powered clone mind you and it was intended to be Thanos at the time the story took place.) doesn’t magically negate the fact that Thor took an onslaught of attacks both physical and energy based from it. It was powered up to levels far beyond Thanos. Thanos arguably being more effective with power ups does not change the fact that said clone’s raw power was beyond Thanos. That’s what matters in the end. The raw power, the category in which the clone was beyond Thanos, and Thor still tanked a massive onslaught. It being a clone doesn’t magically negate or invalidate said showing.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Fifth, this one is very very easy…. You say it's my "theory" that Knockdowns counts for more than blows landed… Let me call you out on that first… is that "my" theory or common practice for the fighting sports we currently have? Whether it be boxing, K1, MMA.. all count knockdowns more than blows landed. Once again tooled. Next, in all these sports listed… they don't count each blow as a point.. where you got that from I'll never know.
Once again, you read way too much into simple statements. Knockdowns being worth more than blows in comic books depends entirely on the context.
Then make up your own system. My god, I used the “1 blow = 1 point” to keep it simple.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Regardless, read the fight again…. Thanos actually lands 4 blows… The last blows he lands looks like a double fisted shot… however the lines show the his right hand struck.. .then in the next panel you see the opposite hand with lines from that punch landing. That is actually two blows landed. So by your math that is 5 to 4…
What the hell are you talking about? Thanos landed three blows in total in that fight.
He landed one blow here (A punch):
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThanosvsThor10.jpg
One more blow here (A double fisted punch):
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThanosvsThor11.jpg
And lastly, one more blow here (A punch):
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThanosvsThor12.jpg
How on Earth did you come to the conclusion that Thanos landed 4 blows there? He clearly landed 3.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Since we are being technical…you also forget the blast that Thanos hit Thor with… hmmmmm now your math is all messed up isn't it? Said energy blast also downed Thor. That is 3 knockdowns not 2…. 2 by punches.. 1 via energy blast. Furthermore, that energy blast certainly did as much damage or more than any punch thrown. Again this would also have to be counted on score cards. Did you say Thor not even making contact with Thanos and hitting his shield should count as a blow.. bwahahahaha.. So the real math for the fight is…Thanos - 4 blows (2 Knockdowns)
Thor - 5 blows (One Knockdown)
Thanos - One energy blast (Knockdown)
I think your having a mental breakdown.
What the hell are you talking about? How on Earth did you come to the conclusion that Thanos has 3 knockdowns instead of 2? You do know that those first two pages where Thanos punches Thor etc. are the same scenes from halfway in the fight right? That’s why Pip states, that we’re back where we started. That's the only explanation I can find as to why you've come to the conclusion you have other than me missing pages from my comic.
This is the fight:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThanosvsThor4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThanosvsThor5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThanosvsThor6.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThanosvsThor7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThanosvsThor8.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThanosvsThor9.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThanosvsThor10.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThanosvsThor11.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThanosvsThor12.jpg
These two pages are just the same scenes found in scans 9 and10:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThanosvsThor1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThanosvsThor2.jpg
*Sigh* I said that if your willing to count Thanos striking Thor while his fighting another opponent as a legit knockdown, then I’m counting the shield bash as a hit. Context matters. Thanos struck Thor while he was busy. Hence why I didn’t include the energy blast in my scoring.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
This is a clear and decisive victory for Thanos no matter how you figure it. To say nothing of the fact that Thanos won the fight decisively later on. Concede this point or just continue to show how immature you really are.
This is actually pretty damn funny after responding to your stupidity above. Thor won using your logic.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Sixth, speculation… you can call it such but clearly it was Thanos plan to fake his own death. This much we know… it's just as much speculation on your part to say that wasn't his plan. He escaped and got away from them…. to hide the bomb exploding and him not being around. You don't think it would've been obvious if he just teleported away and let the bomb blow up.. thus clearly not killing him. How would that have made it seem like he died? No he had to go away from their view… and then they see the explosion and think he's dead… I didn't think this basic logically thing would allude you, but clearly it has. Sure nobody knows… but my theory seems more logically and likely than yours.
😂/😬/😐/facepalm
I honestly cannot believe your turning a statement this simple:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thanos5.jpg
Into some kind of master plan where he planned the entire encounter. It’s also hilarious that you think your theory is so extremely likely.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsThanos17.jpg
And like I said previously, looking at the scene and Thanos’ statement, it seems his initial plan was to have them remove themselves or run away from him, and not the other way around.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Lastly, you have been utterly tooled in this thread time after time, much like most of the time we have an argument. Hopefully you'll take of your stupid blinders and actually try some logic and reading comprehension. At the very least, I hope you finally concede who got the better of the fight.
😂
Man, I love the Thanos camp. It’s as if it’s mandatory to be a moron to join the Thanos fan club. Once again, you shame Thanos with your stupidity.
I'm still trying to figure out how he came to the conclusion that Thanos landed 4 punches instead of 3 and knocked Thor down 3 times instead of two.
Maybe I really am missing pages from my comic although I doubt it.
At least I'm making progress. He acknowledges that Thor will give Thanos a good fight on a normal day based on their interactions together.
First, I don't need an explanation.. you do… wanna know why… YOU brought up that scene as proof so something… oo yeah… proof that M Thor has gotten the better of Thanos, more so than Thanos has Thor. Fail. You were the one bringing it up… I was the one who mentioned he was toying with the heroes and it was PIS because he had the IG. Next time don't bring up something that you know proves nothing and has PIS written all over it. I expected better from you Rage.
Second, the point is… you cannot definitively tell where M. Thor was, which is why you used the word "seems" which is accurate. It seems that way. However, in the other situation we KNOW who was facing who. I never once said you can't be taken by surprise whether you're looking at somebody or not. What I'm claiming is that one clearly shows to combatants looking at one another. THe other has Thanos having a group of heroes around him and he's been dealing with multiple people the whole fight. M. Thor seems to be right in front… yet we know in the other situation Thanos WAS right in front of Thor. Not to mention Thanos having to deal with more people around him at the time. Point being one is clearly more likely to be surprised than the other. Is it negligible… sure I have no issue with that.
Third, there is no backtracking Kid.. my statement was spot on… Thor was at best on his knees dazed.. no that is exactly what he was.. not at best.. you mean AT LEAST. We need to work on the words you choose and be a little more careful when using them. When someone has someone on the ground.. and says… victory is about to be mine with a few more blows… what does that say.. The writer is clearly saying this for a reason.. Reason being that Thor was about to be put down or killed. If you have someone down and dazed and a writer saying a few more blows and he's done… what do you think happens if Thanos continued to fire on a downed Thor? He's dead. I didn't think basic english and logic alluded you this much.
Fourth, I can't even believe you're continuing this line of thought… The fact that it's a clone invalidates it as any proof of a real Thanos vs. Thor matchup.. What is unclear about this basic sound logical statement. Oooo that's right nothing. It was a clone you tool. That in and of itself invalidates it for a Thanos vs Thor matchup. Furthermore, Thor was amped and it wasn't just his strength… unless of course you feel like two eye beams from the weakest version of Thanos can floor Thor… and yet and clone on steroids who you feel is more powerful.. can't put him down? Jesus… were you absent when logic was passed out? It also increased his durability you moron. Unless of course you feel that regular Thanos is more powerful than that amped clone… Ooo wait you already said otherwise LOL.
Fifth, the fact remains that he knocked down Thor twice compared to once for Thor. Those count for more than any single blow. So say nothing of the fact that said energy blast sent thor flying and certainly should count for 2 or 3 blows considering Thor didn't go down from a Thanos punch.. yet was blasted and sent flying. Yet you're aren't counting that as a blow or anything? LOL. You really are a tool
Sixth, so you concede that the whole point would be for him to be OUT OF SIGHT of the heroes in order for him to fake his death. Then why would you make a moronic statement and say he should've just teleported away? You concede he needed to get away and getting away from the heroes was his plan so he could fake his death. Yet you think him being hit away wasn't part of that plan you twit. Of course it was, wanna know why.. cause that was his plan. You agree with all except the hit not being part of the plan.. yet concede him getting away and the bomb exploding was… Jesus, did you take stupid pills today or is that just your normal brain power at work here?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm still trying to figure out how he came to the conclusion that Thanos landed 4 punches instead of 3 and knocked Thor down 3 times instead of two.Maybe I really am missing pages from my comic although I doubt it.
At least I'm making progress. He acknowledges that Thor will give Thanos a good fight on a normal day based on their interactions together.
Of course he can, he's made to fight Thanos more so than any other herald. No dispute there and never have.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm still trying to figure out how he came to the conclusion that Thanos landed 4 punches instead of 3 and knocked Thor down 3 times instead of two.Maybe I really am missing pages from my comic although I doubt it.
At least I'm making progress. He acknowledges that Thor will give Thanos a good fight on a normal day based on their interactions together.
Not being a Thanos fan you wouldn't know anything about that. dur
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThanosvsThor2.jpghttp://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThanosvsThor11.jpg
These are the same.....
Uh...what?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Of course he can, he's made to fight Thanos more so than any other herald. No dispute there and never have.
You don't realize how much of a victory I think that is. Your the first person from the Thanos camp that acknowledges that Thor can give Thanos a good fight.
I never understood how anyone can deny that looking at their interactions. Thor's done the better than any herald level character against Thanos. Even during DC vs. Marvel where Thanos was cut by bone claw Wolverine, he was toying with Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman etc.
I also never understood what's so bad about Thor being a threat to Thanos. Just look at Thor's track record and feats.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
First, I don't need an explanation.. you do… wanna know why… YOU brought up that scene as proof so something… oo yeah… proof that M Thor has gotten the better of Thanos, more so than Thanos has Thor. Fail. You were the one bringing it up… I was the one who mentioned he was toying with the heroes and it was PIS because he had the IG. Next time don't bring up something that you know proves nothing and has PIS written all over it. I expected better from you Rage.
That doesn’t even make sense. Why the hell would I need an explanation? I don’t need to justify that scene. It supports my stance.
I did bring up the scene as proof that Thor has done worse against Thanos than vise versa. And guess what? It proved exactly what I intended it to. Thanos possessing the Infinity Gauntlet doesn’t somehow invalidate the said showing no matter how much you want it to. It just serves to show how incompetent Thanos is at the very least. The coward.
? It proves exactly what I want it.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Second, the point is… you cannot definitively tell where M. Thor was, which is why you used the word "seems" which is accurate. It seems that way. However, in the other situation we KNOW who was facing who. I never once said you can't be taken by surprise whether you're looking at somebody or not. What I'm claiming is that one clearly shows to combatants looking at one another. THe other has Thanos having a group of heroes around him and he's been dealing with multiple people the whole fight. M. Thor seems to be right in front… yet we know in the other situation Thanos WAS right in front of Thor. Not to mention Thanos having to deal with more people around him at the time. Point being one is clearly more likely to be surprised than the other. Is it negligible… sure I have no issue with that.
😂 Nothing is ever enough for Thanos fans is it?
Unless you have proof to support the stance that Masterson Thor was not in front of Thanos, then you don’t have any ground here as there is evidence to support my position, which is that Masterson Thor attacked Thanos head on. Mjolnir clearly flew in a straight path at Thanos’ chest and when it returned to Thor, the comic clearly showed Masterson Thor hovering in front of Thanos. I provided evidence to support my stance so you can’t hide behind the “I can’t prove a negative” excuse. Unless you have further evidence, your going simply by your speculation, which seems to be a reoccurring trend with you.
You sure as hell seemed to be following that trail of thought as according to you, the level of surprise present in Marvel Two-In-One Annual #2 was not even comparable to the surprise factor in Infinity Gauntlet #4.
There were no heroes attacking Thanos at the time. He was standing there undisturbed so that entire point is moot.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Third, there is no backtracking Kid.. my statement was spot on… Thor was at best on his knees dazed.. no that is exactly what he was.. not at best.. you mean AT LEAST. We need to work on the words you choose and be a little more careful when using them. When someone has someone on the ground.. and says… victory is about to be mine with a few more blows… what does that say.. The writer is clearly saying this for a reason.. Reason being that Thor was about to be put down or killed. If you have someone down and dazed and a writer saying a few more blows and he's done… what do you think happens if Thanos continued to fire on a downed Thor? He's dead. I didn't think basic english and logic alluded you this much.
😂 You went from claiming that Thor was on his knees messed up and would have been killed by Thanos if he had not been stopped as backed up by the comic (Which was untrue by the way. I haven’t forgotten about that little bit.) to Thanos being moments away from winning that fight.
Being dazed or stunned is far different from being “messed up” unless you and I have very different definitions.
Once more you’re pulling statements out of your ass. I posted the scans and nowhere did Thanos state that.
There is a big difference between putting an opponent down/defeating them and killing your opponent. The fact that Thor was physically unharmed as far as we could see, and was up in moments leads me to believe that he was at best dazed or stunned, and not injured in such a way that Thanos was moments from killing him. Which by the way is not supported in anyway by the comic in dialogue, narration or art.
Your delusions are glorious.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Fourth, I can't even believe you're continuing this line of thought… The fact that it's a clone invalidates it as any proof of a real Thanos vs. Thor matchup.. What is unclear about this basic sound logical statement. Oooo that's right nothing. It was a clone you tool. That in and of itself invalidates it for a Thanos vs Thor matchup. Furthermore, Thor was amped and it wasn't just his strength… unless of course you feel like two eye beams from the weakest version of Thanos can floor Thor… and yet and clone on steroids who you feel is more powerful.. can't put him down? Jesus… were you absent when logic was passed out? It also increased his durability you moron. Unless of course you feel that regular Thanos is more powerful than that amped clone… Ooo wait you already said otherwise LOL.
My god, are you really that much of a retard?
My initial statement was that it balances out the Thing fight (Which it does.); something that you found amusing. I’m not using it as evidence as to how Thor would do against the real Thanos in the same situation. It does however lead us to believe that on average or at least on a good day, it would take more than a few eye beams from Thanos to even down Thor.
It being a clone does not invalidate said showing. The bottom line here is that said clone had more raw power than Thanos has access to, and even then, it could not put down Thor. That’s it.
He was not amped in anyway besides physical strength (The Odin shield was destroyed.) you moron.
😐 My god. That’s exactly why I posted those scans. Because a significantly amped clone could not put Thor down, which balances out their fight in Marvel Two-In-One Annual #2. It makes anyone claiming that Thanos can put down Thor easier currently that much harder to support.
A low to average showing is balanced out by a higher end showing. What does not compute?
Don’t try and invalidate my point with your silly twisting.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Fifth, the fact remains that he knocked down Thor twice compared to once for Thor. Those count for more than any single blow. So say nothing of the fact that said energy blast sent thor flying and certainly should count for 2 or 3 blows considering Thor didn't go down from a Thanos punch.. yet was blasted and sent flying. Yet you're aren't counting that as a blow or anything? LOL. You really are a tool
😂 😂 😂
I find it amusing how you completely ignored me proving that your math was wrong.
You spent the first part of your previous post mocking me:
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Rage Rage Rage… much like most of our past debates… you again amuse me with your lack of logic and reading comprehension. Now we are adding a lack of basic math skills to the fray… :facepalm:
And ironically it turned out that it was you who were wrong. Absolutely gold. This is why I love debating with the Thanos camp. You guys are your own worst enemies.
There you go, ignoring context once more. How many times have I brought this up? Context is important. Thanos knocked Thor down while he was busy actively fighting other opponents, the coward. It was a sucker punch. That was a true surprise attack.
If you count that as a valid knock down, then I’ll count that shield bash as a blow or something similar. If your going to resort to stupidity, so am I.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Sixth, so you concede that the whole point would be for him to be OUT OF SIGHT of the heroes in order for him to fake his death. Then why would you make a moronic statement and say he should've just teleported away? You concede he needed to get away and getting away from the heroes was his plan so he could fake his death. Yet you think him being hit away wasn't part of that plan you twit. Of course it was, wanna know why.. cause that was his plan. You agree with all except the hit not being part of the plan.. yet concede him getting away and the bomb exploding was… Jesus, did you take stupid pills today or is that just your normal brain power at work here?
😬 Now your beginning to confuse even me.
I stated that his initial plan was: The threat of the bomb scaring them into removing themselves from his presence, and not the other way around. This seems to be pretty obvious as he even suggests that they remove themselves due to the bomb:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsThanos17.jpg
What I'm debating is your stance, which is that Thanos planned out the entire scene including Masterson's reaction and his blow which is just your speculation.
When did I state that he should have just teleported away? I never said anything of the sort.
The closest I've come to mentioning teleportion was when I stated it was just as likely he came up with teleportation right before the blast as his escape route on the fly or something similar.
Are you trying to defeat me in this argument by using as little logic or sense in your statements as possible, in turn confusing me? It nearly worked, you devilish bastard you.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You don't realize how much of a victory I think that is. Your the first person from the Thanos camp that acknowledges that Thor can give Thanos a good fight.I never understood how anyone can deny that looking at their interactions. Thor's done the better than any herald level character against Thanos. Even during DC vs. Marvel where Thanos was cut by bone claw Wolverine, he was toying with Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman etc.
I also never understood what's so bad about Thor being a threat to Thanos. Just look at Thor's track record and feats.
I don't know how this could be the first time when I've said this NUMEROUS times and believe this to be true. Of any herald out there I think Thor gives Thanos the most trouble. He's made to deal with somebody like Thanos as best as he could. Of course, I believe Thanos would and do so convincingly but that doesn't change that fact that Thor would give him more of a struggle than Surfer, Supes, Glads etc etc has. In fact, he has done just that.
