Twilight vs Marvel

Started by Robtard6 pages
Originally posted by Darth Martin
So silver, garlic, and sunlight doesn't work on these guys?

Don't think so. Sunlight makes them sparkle. No, that isn't a joke.

So the preferred way to kill them is ripping them apart with pure strength? Can't Spider-Man, Hulk, Ock, and Venom do this?

Hulk can rip them apart, Wolverine can stab them...

TwiVamps have skin that is granite-hard... ripping them apart would be akin to taking a slab of Granite and pulling it apart... Spiderman and Venom aren't that strong.

Wolverine can stab anyone if they stand still. This isn't the "Hulk vs." version. I believe this is Hugh Jackman's version.

Hulk soloes the battlefield, yes.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
So the preferred way to kill them is ripping them apart with pure strength? Can't Spider-Man, Hulk, Ock, and Venom do this?
It's said that that is how to put them down for good. I would imagine that if someone were strong enough to rip out their throats they'd bleed out.

So these Vamps are more durable than Blade's prey? Because Blade has ripped a Vampire's throat out onscreen and thwon it back at him.

far more durable. the only thing in the Twilight universe that is proven to break the skin of a vampire is...

Werewolves teeth/jaws
Vampires teeth
A vampire with base-Hulk-like strength slamming them into a marble floor.

So would a bite from Blade do the trick?

Originally posted by Robtard
Good lord, and people actually continue to read this shit.

That's just one example.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
So would a bite from Blade do the trick?
Not that i can recall. i don't think there's anything that would suggest Blade has a bite-force stronger than any other vampire (in his universe). Only Twilight Vamps have that ridiculous biting strength. Even if he could bite through their skin, their speed is on par with a relatively slow moving Wally West.

Originally posted by marwash22
Not that i can recall. i don't think there's anything that would suggest Blade has a bite-force stronger than any other vampire (in his universe). Only Twilight Vamps have that ridiculous biting strength. Even if he could bite through their skin, their speed is on par with a relatively slow moving Wally West.

How do you guys figure that. What in the movies suggests their speed, except that those big wolves can keep up with them?

Originally posted by Bardock42
How do you guys figure that. What in the movies suggests their speed, except that those big wolves can keep up with them?
Only one example is needed...

Ed and Bella were looking at each other and Bella goes to get out of the car; the following occurs...

Edward unbuckled his seatbelt
Opened his car door
Closed his car door
Opened the passenger side door for Bella

all that happened before Bella could turn around. That's comic book type speed.

Originally posted by marwash22
far more durable. the only thing in the Twilight universe that is proven to break the skin of a vampire is...

Werewolves teeth/jaws
Vampires teeth
A vampire with base-Hulk-like strength slamming them into a marble floor.

That doesn't really tell us the whole picture. What would: What have they been shown to resist? Bullets? Being hit by a train? Falling great distances? Etc.

Where do you get that "hulk base strength" from?

Originally posted by Robtard
That doesn't really tell us the whole picture. What would: What have they been shown to resist? Bullets? Being hit by a train? Falling great distances? Etc.
I get your point, and to it, there isn't much in the way of proof of what they are resistant to.

However, a lot can be inferred by what is known. Their skin being granite-hard is a fact. Using what we know about granite, we know...

Bullets wouldn't penetrate their skin... at least, no bullet that Blade carries. Short of .50 cal sniper rifle or a pistol with diamond-tipped ammo, no bullet is getting through their skin. As far as i know, Blade doesn't use diamond-tipped ammunition or sniper rifles.

Originally posted by Robtard
Where do you get that "hulk base strength" from?
i said "base-hulk-'like"... it was an estimation, not saying they are actually as strong as base Hulk, but it's pretty darn close if it isn't.

Edward (who is one of the weaker vamps in Twilight) knocking over a fully grown tree with one hand says a bit about how strong they are.

Originally posted by Robtard
That doesn't really tell us the whole picture. What would: What have they been shown to resist? Bullets? Being hit by a train? Falling great distances? Etc.

Try this - Edward needed to go to the Volturi to get himself killed. He wouldn't have been able to kill himself with other means (except Werewolves, but I guess he didn't think/want that).

As for Vampire speed, Werewolves being able to keep up is just silly to me. In the novel, it was left to the imagination, and that was okay. But on film, when Vamps are shown to be moving at blurring speeds, the Wolves just shouldn't be able to keep up. Even if Wolves could match their running speed, they would never be able to out-maneuver the Vamps.

I think Wolves matching Vamp speed is just PIS to me. The way its depicted on film, there is definitely a disparity between speed used when vampires fought other vampires and when vampires fought werewolves. I don't expect anyone else to accept this as PIS though, cause you know, of the strict on-screen rules etc.

It's not PIS because wolves are quadrupeds and vamps are bipeds; it only makes sense that a wolf (with four feet) can run faster than a vampire (with two feet). Also, when it comes to combat, the wolves can't keep up with a vamp's maneuverability... this will be shown in 'Eclipse'.

Base Hulk is at least 100 tons. Those vampires showed strength nowhere near that.

stop nitpicking. I used "base-Hulk-like strength" as a rudimentary example. When you call someone a badass motherphucker... you don't actually mean, they phuck mother's; at least, i don't. Point is, they're effin strong... much stronger than vampires in other portrayals.

Ed, (who is relatively weak when compared to someone like Emmett), is still capable of uprooting a full grown tree with one hand.

blade showed superhuman combat reflexive speed when he fought deacon in part one with the sword they were blocking and parring at superhuman speed till blade finally sliced his arm off...

blade was also able to slam the vamp thugs into the cement marble walls as well similar feat to the edward moment,.. in part two blade an numak or whatever his name was were breaking the statue when they were tossing each other around as well as breaking the marble floor...same thing when he fought dracula.. the tweens strength is not that superior then blades or even equal to a base hulk.

aside from that elektra was shown to possess superhuman speed or bending time ninja trick in the intro of the movie when she killed all the guards and the mob boss... whispering in his ear and then being across the room...

anyways i did not see any real Healing feats from the vamps that would suggest they can continue fighting if they are gutted by wolverine also remember they will all be busy so that not one or two can gang up on another.. distractions will arise and opening will be exploited

Originally posted by marwash22
It's not PIS because wolves are quadrupeds and vamps are bipeds; it only makes sense that a wolf (with four feet) can run faster than a vampire (with two feet).

Um no, its the level of superspeed, not how many feet you have. Flash only has two feet too.

Vamps were running at blurring speeds, Werewolves should not be able to keep up.