That's not the way that it looked in The Death of the New Gods, I'll go with what is considered cannonical over an assumption, no offense. As I stated earlier Superman was going to bust IM's A$$. If Superman had him on the ropes Rune King Thor would pulverive him. RK Thor rumpled Captain America's Shield, which was quite the feat, while Superman was tanking IM's best blows.
No scans on hand, but when IM took out Orion there was no footage to tell what had happened, as far as any are concerned he beat them all by subterfuge, and not by pure power. He's powerful, but there really wasn't anything or anyone other than Superman to compare him to. Every New God killed aside from Orion never saw it coming, or it was too late by the time that they did.
Originally posted by amnesia
Yes well obviously deat of the new gods IM beats the **** out of RKT.
I don't see what your reasoning for saying that is aside from hyperbole. The Infinity Man did little to prove that he was above high herald status. No one saw him kill a New God, as far as anyone could tell, he killed his victims by surprise. I have every book of the series, and not once did I see the Infinity Man defeat another New God. Barda was found dead, with no clue as to whom killed her, and no signs of struggle... like I said as far as anyone knows he could have killed them in their sleep, or caught them unawares, sh&t Mary Jane Watson could kill a New God if they didn't suspect that she was their assassin.
The fact still remains that if we want to guage his strengths, the only thing that we can go by is his battle with Superman, and Superman was clearly gaining momentum against him. RK Thor would have no such trouble with Superman.
Originally posted by Stoic
I don't see what your reasoning for saying that is aside from hyperbole. The Infinity Man did little to prove that he was above high herald status. No one saw him kill a New God, as far as anyone could tell, he killed his victims by surprise. I have every book of the series, and not once did I see the Infinity Man defeat another New God. Barda was found dead, with no clue as to whom killed her, and no signs of struggle... like I said as far as anyone knows he could have killed them in their sleep, or caught them unawares, sh&t Mary Jane Watson could kill a New God if they didn't suspect that she was their assassin.The fact still remains that if we want to guage his strengths, the only thing that we can go by is his battle with Superman, and Superman was clearly gaining momentum against him. RK Thor would have no such trouble with Superman.
he beat the miracle man who used the anti life equation.
I hate to go on what others have said in the past, but damage is a great way of measuring power.
Superman as I stated earlier was a match for DONG's Infinity Man. If Superman could push IM back RK Thor would do the same only better. What I am saying is canonical, anything else is simply how people feel that their battle should have gone, and not how it is.
Originally posted by StoicNo Superman wasn't. LOL. I'm didn't want to kill Superman. That was obvious that I'm simply held Superman easily in a block of energy. He could have simpky Killed Superman if he wanted to. Unless you think Superman is greater than Takion with Highfather's staff. I'm simpky turned off Takion's powers. He could have done the same to Superman if he wanted to kill him. Orion was matching Superman without his AF. In a full display of Orion's might, Superman was in awe and Orion still lost and nearly died. Your reasoning is way off without ontext.
I hate to go on what others have said in the past, but damage is a great way of measuring power.Superman as I stated earlier was a match for DONG's Infinity Man. If Superman could push IM back RK Thor would do the same only better. What I am saying is canonical, anything else is simply how people feel that their battle should have gone, and not how it is.
Originally posted by Stoic
I hate to go on what others have said in the past, but damage is a great way of measuring power.Superman as I stated earlier was a match for DONG's Infinity Man. If Superman could push IM back RK Thor would do the same only better. What I am saying is canonical, anything else is simply how people feel that their battle should have gone, and not how it is.
Originally posted by iceman24567
So are you going to ignore how easily IM took out EVERY newgod because Superman held his own against a IM that wanted little to do with Clark? His goal was to kill all the Newgods if he wanted to he could have killed Superman too but that wasn't what the source wanted. IM and Mister Miracle were on a different level above skyfathers. IM stomps.
What you say makes loads of sense to me, but at the same time IM acknowledged Supermans power. He was also stunned by the power of his attacks, maybe the story was written very poorly. On this note RK Thor was also above Skyfather level was he not?
Originally posted by StoicYou do know that DC considers Superman as Skyfather right? He even said he turned down an offer to join the QUINTESSENCE.
What you say makes loads of sense to me, but at the same time IM acknowledged Supermans power. He was also stunned by the power of his attacks, maybe the story was written very poorly. On this note RK Thor was also above Skyfather level was he not?