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I think I still side with Keith because Nervous Breakdown really was the best Black Flag record even if Rise Above was maybe their best song. Henry definitely got to be a better singer but Black Flag definitely got worse post-'84 primarily because of Greg Ginn. For some asstard reason he thinks solid state sounds better than valve amps and since then, their guitar sound has been an unbearably shitty mess. For some reason that really colors the sound for me. Dez sounds almost identical to Henry to me though Henry was definitely imitating him pm TV Party and Damaged (listen to the SOA record and you'll hear that). Ron just has no character and was the biggest, most vindictive dickbag of an ex-punker who wasn't in the Dead Kennedys (especially East Bay Ray and 6025)