Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Unless his version of super saiyan runs out after a certain period of time.
sorry. As a big luffy fan i can't stand by on this comment! rawr!
His Gear forms aren't a version of Super Saiyan
Unlike Goku, Naruto, and Ichigo from bleach. Luffys Gear Forms aren't made threw emotions 😎
wtf are you talking about?
Magneto can literally kill Logan whenever he want's to, the only thing keeping him from doing so, is Marvel.
Last i checked, Logan ain't immune to being mindphucked. Again, the only thing keeping it from happening, is Marvel.
Eh, incapacitation is a win, sure, but it's a cheap one. I personally like fights to the death, any telepath with reasonably strong offensive capabilities can just knock someone out... it's cheap.
Originally posted by marwash22
wtf are you talking about?Magneto can literally kill Logan whenever he want's to, the only thing keeping him from doing so, is Marvel.
Last i checked, Logan ain't immune to being mindphucked. Again, the only thing keeping it from happening, is Marvel.
Eh, incapacitation is a win, sure, but it's a cheap one. I personally like fights to the death, any telepath with reasonably strong offensive capabilities can just knock someone out... it's cheap.
He can rip the metal form his bones, kill him though?
Getting mindraped doesn't equate to death. He has been beaten with telepathy before Emma Frost turned him into like a 10 year old girl.
Yes knocking your opponent out is a cheap win. More than half of the fights in all comic history are all a bunch of cheap wins.
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixMagneto can literally crush every organ in Logan's body turning him into goo, using Logan's own skeleton; he can also decapitate him.
He can rip the metal form his bones, kill him though?
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixUh... i never said mindrape was a kill, i said it was the only way to put Logan down for good. Turning someone into a veggie and making it impossible for them to fight, is a win.
Getting mindraped doesn't equate to death. He has been beaten with telepathy before Emma Frost turned him into like a 10 year old girl.
If Luffy has neither of these powers, it'll be a stalemate or it'll end in Logan getting knocked unconscious.
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixI called it cheap, didn't say it wasn't valid. To me, if you don't kill your opponent or are at least able to kill your opponent, you didn't win shit... So I'll say it again, if Luffy doesn't have mindraping abilities or magnetism powers, this is gonna be a stalemate and there's really no point of debating it. I guess people like 30 pages of "Luffy can knock out Logan in ______ different ways"...
Yes knocking your opponent out is a cheap win. More than half of the fights in all comic history are all a bunch of cheap wins.
Originally posted by marwash22
Magneto can literally crush every organ in Logan's body turning him into goo, using Logan's own skeleton; he can also decapitate him.Uh... i never said mindrape was a kill, i said it was the only way to put Logan down for good. Turning someone into a veggie and making it impossible for them to fight, is a win.
If Luffy has neither of these powers, it'll be a stalemate or it'll end in Logan getting knocked unconscious.
I called it cheap, didn't say it wasn't valid. To me, if you don't kill your opponent or are at least able to kill your opponent, you didn't win shit... So I'll say it again, if Luffy doesn't have mindraping abilities or magnetism powers, this is gonna be a stalemate and there's really no point of debating it. I guess people like 30 pages of "Luffy can knock out Logan in ______ different ways"...
He's survived worst.
By your logic, there's no point in any Wolverine thread at all unless it involves Magneto or a high end telepath. So Luffy doesn't have these powers so he can either stalemate, beat or lose to Wolverine.
So no won wins in Boxing, MMA fights, or any comic fights where they beat their opponent to sleep?
Originally posted by marwash22
Magneto can literally crush every organ in Logan's body turning him into goo, using Logan's own skeleton; he can also decapitate him.Uh... i never said mindrape was a kill, i said it was the only way to put Logan down for good. Turning someone into a veggie and making it impossible for them to fight, is a win.
If Luffy has neither of these powers, it'll be a stalemate or it'll end in Logan getting knocked unconscious.
I called it cheap, didn't say it wasn't valid. To me, if you don't kill your opponent or are at least able to kill your opponent, you didn't win shit... So I'll say it again, if Luffy doesn't have mindraping abilities or magnetism powers, this is gonna be a stalemate and there's really no point of debating it. I guess people like 30 pages of "Luffy can knock out Logan in ______ different ways"...
neither of you read correctly. I said "kill your opponent or are at least able to kill your opponent"...
MMA fighters can most certainly kill each other, same goes for Boxers and any other comic fight... they only thing stopping people from dying in comics is PIS and the need to continue stories. If you kill all the characters, guess what happens, no more comic.
Superman can most certainly kill almost anyone.
As it pertains to Logan... he's survived being crushed from the inside and liquefied? or having his head cut off? Scans, please.
Originally posted by marwash22
neither of you read correctly. I said [b]"kill your opponent or are at least able to kill your opponent"...MMA fighters can most certainly kill each other, same goes for Boxers and any other comic fight... they only thing stopping people from dying in comics is PIS and the need to continue stories. If you kill all the characters, guess what happens, no more comic.
Superman can most certainly kill almost anyone.
As it pertains to Logan... he's survived being crushed from the inside and liquefied? or having his head cut off? Scans, please. [/B]
Wolverine took a nuke, pretty much higher than getting crushed from the inside.
So fights with Deadpool and Juggernaut are pointless? PIS? So a character's personality and personal beliefs are PIS now?
Originally posted by Wei Phoenixfacepalm
Wolverine took a nuke, pretty much higher than getting crushed from the inside.
Wolverine HAS NEVER survived a nuke and he has never once, and i mean never, had his organs crushes and liquefied. Stop making stuff up.
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixHuh? Deadpool can be killed... much easier than Logan at that. Juggernaut can be killed too and they both can be mindraped.
So fights with Deadpool and Juggernaut are pointless? PIS?
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixSweet Baby Jesus, you have a serious reading comprehension problem. I never said character's personal beliefs were PIS. I said, the reason character's don't get killed is because of PIS and the need to continue stories. Superman doesn't kill because if he did, everyone would be dead and the comics would end.
So a character's personality and personal beliefs are PIS now?
Originally posted by marwash22
facepalmWolverine HAS NEVER survived a nuke and he has never once, and i mean never, had his organs crushes and liquefied. Stop making stuff up.
Huh? Deadpool can be killed... much easier than Logan at that. Juggernaut can be killed too and they both can be mindraped.
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No deadpool an not be killed, he is immortal he has come back from everything done to him before. Even his body being destroyed or atleast almost all of it. Its been flat out stated he cant die
Originally posted by marwash22
facepalmWolverine HAS NEVER survived a nuke and he has never once, and i mean never, had his organs crushes and liquefied. Stop making stuff up.
Huh? Deadpool can be killed... much easier than Logan at that. Juggernaut can be killed too and they both can be mindraped.
Sweet Baby Jesus, you have a serious reading comprehension problem. I never said character's personal beliefs were PIS. I said, the reason character's don't get killed is because of PIS and the need to continue stories. Superman doesn't kill because if he did, everyone would be dead and the comics would end.
Call this what you want but it's basically him with no insides at all.
Deadpool is immortal, has been for a while. He's actually harder to kill than Wolverine is. Juggernaut can not be killed unless he's facing someone like Galactus, Tribunal, someone on a much higher scale than Cyttorak and they override the enchantment. Mindraping him isn't going to do anything, his mind will regenerate. Deadpool can't be mindraped at all. Stop making stuff up.
Superman doesn't kill people because he doesn't believe in killing, he isn't willing to kill people because those are his personal beliefs. Batman doesn't kill because he doesn't believe in going that far either. Iron Fist has no problem with killing people, he'll kill Joker in a heartbeat if given the chance.
I won't call it what i want, I'll call it what is wasn't, a nuke. It was a bomb made out of napalm. Also, that's not the same as what Magneto could do to him. There, he was stripped down to a skeleton, a skeleton that protected his brain and allowed him to regenerate. Magneto could crush and liquefy everything, including his brain... he's not regenerating from that. Also, to my knowledge Wolverine has never been decapitated... Magneto could rip his head off quite easily, but he doesn't because Marvel doesn't want their golden boy dead.
As for Deadpool, he can die. Don't confuse not being able to die, with being able to come back from the dead. If i stab you in the face and you die, but then come back to life when the sword is removed, i still killed you.
I dunno what you're trying to say when it concerns Superman and Batman. The reason they don't kill is irrelevant to them being able to kill. Superman can wipe out pretty much everyone, he doesn't do it because the writer's equipped him with a sense of morality. Do you know how many times Superman should have died? Ya know why he didn't die... PIS and the need to continue the story.
Originally posted by marwash22
I won't call it what i want, I'll call it what is wasn't, a nuke. It was a bomb made out of napalm. Also, that's not the same as what Magneto could do to him. There, he was stripped down to a skeleton, a skeleton that protected his brain and allowed him to regenerate. Magneto could crush and liquefy everything, including his brain... he's not regenerating from that. Also, to my knowledge Wolverine has never been decapitated... Magneto could rip his head off quite easily, but he doesn't because Marvel doesn't want their golden boy dead.As for Deadpool, he can die. Don't confuse not being able to die, with being able to come back from the dead. If i stab you in the face and you die, but then come back to life when the sword is removed, i still killed you.
I dunno what you're trying to say when it concerns Superman and Batman. The reason they don't kill is irrelevant to them being able to kill. Superman can wipe out pretty much everyone, he doesn't do it because the writer's equipped him with a sense of morality. Do you know how many times Superman should have died? Ya know why he didn't die... PIS and the need to continue the story.
He'd just regen a brain. 😬
Yeah you did kill me, but if you stab Deadpool in the face then he'll still stand there and probably talk about a splitting headache. He doesn't die, he can't die. He doesn't die and come back to life.
As I said, you're saying their personalities and morals are all a part of PIS. This isn't true. Punisher tracking Red Skull down for killing 1000s of Americans or anyone and not killing him is PIS. Batman doing the same isn't.