Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
His power levels fluctuate with the story/writer like it does with every character but it's always been an underlining factor that it is his anger and the threat his facing which will determine his strength etc. How is this debatable?
You are making stuff up. It isn't official that Hulk's power raises in accordance to the threat level. Just because it happens once every 10 years means nothing. Other wise he would never lose in a brawl. Your argument suggests that Savage Hulk could never lose in a brawl against Thor, Thanos, Gladiator, SS, or any herald level being since he would amp past anyone's threat level. This is false.
If you place Hulk in a battle against a mocking opponent who starts out several times stronger than him, the Hulk's more likely to amp up past them and kick said opponent's ass then he would against say Namor in a battle.
I disagree. Spiderman mocked Hulk yet afterwards Sampson still koed him with one punch. Yes it was a cheapshot but still Doc Sampson isn't even class 100 and that happened. Also none of these characters here will be mocking Hulk.
His encounters with those characters support my stance. Like I said initially, they either go in hard and all out attempting to knock him out or the Hulk gets angry enough to be beyond them in strength. It should work unless the Hulk's healing factor/damage soak is being played up or his unusually angry at the time.
Agreed. It depends on how hard they go at him in the beginning. It is their only chance.
Sampson took him down with a sucker punch by the way. Abomination did take him down in their encounter when his strength was originally amped, but we saw how that went when he started mocking him etc.
Namor is actually a good point as he was able to stalemate him to a knock out. Of course there have been brief scenes when an enraged Hulk seems to be beyond him.
And Thor's Thor. His the odd exception to the Hulk and his thing.
It's been shown time and time again, placing the Hulk against team threats will simply increase the Hulk's strength and formidable factor. Either Namor, Iron Man, Sampson would do better individually against the Hulk -or at least seem like it- then they would attacking him as a team in a comic.
Sampson is covered above. Yes that is because of the sake of the story. When anyone fights a team (ANYONE) they almost always have better showings than fighting an individual. This sells comics, nothing more. That is why this is a forum fight and not a comic one. Comic logic is overruled when it contradicts valid reasoning.
Your last sentence makes no sense. You contradicted yourself.
Not really. Who would win their own comic doesn't imply who would win in a forum fight.