Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
zeus really doesnt have that much lightning feats though besides being the god of lightninig
His lightning has been able to stalemate Thor's. I guess that's a feat.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
how you know?
Because.....I read Thor comics?
Storm lifting Mjolnir makes much less sense that her failing to lift it. Why would she? Everyone from Balder to the Thing to Superman has failed. Even the people who have lifted it like Captain America and Superman briefly only did so because they were under special situations.
The only people to legitimately lift Mjolnir are Beta Ray Bill, Odin, and Dargo Ktor. Even for Dargo it could be argued that him lifting Mjolnir was due to the circumstances he found himself in. His future was a mess with Loki running amok.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
zeus held mljonir and would of keep holding it untill thor called it backalso i looked back over the comic thor fough zeus and thor said zeus has greater control and zeus even leveld him with lightning
Zeus didn't truly hold Mjolnir. He stopped it's flight for literally a panel. Thor didn't actively will it back either.
Incorrect. Thor said that since Zeus is his elder, he was more experienced in using lightning. Nothing more.
Leveled him? We have very different definitions of the word then. The most he ever did in that fight was knock Thor off his feet.
thats still holding it, thor said he doesnt know how he did that. and isnt the enchantment also that no one can stop its flight?
and zues knocked him down repeated times with lightning and even punched him into the ground and thor was even crying
im on my iphone so go to the zeus respect forums and get the scans
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
thats still holding it, thor said he doesnt know how he did that. and isnt the enchantment also that no one can stop its flight?
and zues knocked him down repeated times with lightning and even punched him into the ground and thor was even cryingim on my iphone so go to the zeus respect forums and get the scans
No it's not. He stopped it in mid flight for a panel.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsZeus2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsZeus3.jpg
He said no such thing. Here is the scene, exactly as I described it:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsZeus1.jpg
No, the enchantment isn't that nothing can halt Mjolnir, the enchantment is that nothing, no barrier or force, can stop Mjolnir from returning to Thor. Especially when he actively tries to control it. Which is exactly what happened in this fight.
I have the scans on hand.
Originally posted by SuperiorTech
[B]Thor Annual 8Zeus vs Thor
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A few things to take note of in this fight is that Zeus was never going all out and it was never his intention to kill Thor only to stop his interference in the battle of Troy.Thor admits Zeus control of Weather is superior to his and is also easily physically overpowered by Zeus
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
he said the exact words no one save thor or odin can hault mljonir in its path
and zeus replied well you better add me to that list then
then thor replied he doesnt know how he was able to that
And? That proves what?
Your stance is that Zeus actually held Mjolnir and would have kept holding it if Thor didn't wield it back. That's obviously not the case. Zeus at best halted it's flight. Which is exactly what I've been arguing.
Do you even know what your stance is?
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
if that was the case it would of instantly drop from his arms
theres many times were mljonir was placed in somes hands and instantly dropped
and no one has ever haulted mljonirs flight before its an enchantment againts that also
Christ. You do know that said scene only lasted for literally a panel and then Mjolnir returned to Thor's hand? If we had seen Zeus actually hold Mjolnir you'd have an argument.
He simply halted it's flight and it immediately sped away from his hands.
Since when has there been an enchantment on Mjolnir that says nothing can bar it's way or halt it's flight? Mjolnir has bounced off of objects in the past or been stopped.
It all depends on how much power Thor puts behind his throw.
There's a difference between what Zeus accomplished and actually holding Mjolnir.
Here Bor is able to actively hold Mjolnir:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/BorvsThor9.jpg
This is what Zeus does:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsZeus2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsZeus3.jpg
There is a difference. If Bor had only stopped the hammer and the immediate panel afterwards showed Mjolnir speeding away from Bor's hand, then what he accomplshed would be no different from what Zeus did.
Re: Which one of these guys would win in a fight using nothing but lightning manipulation
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Thor
Shazam
Captain Marvel
Storm
Zeus
Thunder strike
BRB
Magneto
Jesus Cable
Morg
Static shock
living lightning
Black Adam
Thanos
Flash
Zeus should win due to sheer power and Thor coming in a close second
Storm has shown the best manipulation though.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big CWin a fight against who?
Thor
Shazam
Captain Marvel
Storm
Zeus
Thunder strike
BRB
Magneto
Jesus Cable
Morg
Static shock
living lightning
Black Adam
Thanos
Flash
Originally posted by lightyeargeeShazam is a skyfather wizard who went against DOV Specter. Captain Marvel gets his powers from the Greek Pantheon.
Shazam gets his lightning abilities from Zeus. Thor and Storm's come from their own powers. Shazam would kick their asses if it were any other kind of fight but Thor and Storm are better with lightning. I"d put Storm over Thor tho. She's much better with it than he is.
Zeus is definitely number one. Its not all about skill with lightning manipulation when it comes to determining the winner. Youve also got to factor in the stamina and durability of the characters involved. Storm wouldnt even be in the top 5 regardless of how superior her skill level may be to most others on the list. She has human durability and if shes limited to just her lightning then her human stamina wouldnt be able to keep up with others like Thor, Shazam, and Black Adam. So when her stamina fails her and some of the attacking opponents lightning seeps through then her very human durability makes it game over for her.
Originally posted by GalacticStormWell, look who came out of retirement. mmm
Zeus is definitely number one. Its not all about skill with lightning manipulation when it comes to determining the winner. Youve also got to factor in the stamina and durability of the characters involved. Storm wouldnt even be in the top 5 regardless of how superior her skill level may be to most others on the list. She has human durability and if shes limited to just her lightning then her human stamina wouldnt be able to keep up with others like Thor, Shazam, and Black Adam. So when her stamina fails her and some of the attacking opponents lightning seeps through then her very human durability makes it game over for her.
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Assuming they are actually fightin each other... I doubt anyone harms Zeus with lightning... But then the same would be said for the living lightning or Thor...
As to who simply ha the best displays of it Zeus Thor then storm... Her space feat gathering the ions in the ai to surprise surfer puts her up there but guys like Thor and Zeus don't have actual science based limitations...
Originally posted by rotiart
Assuming they are actually fightin each other... I doubt anyone harms Zeus with lightning... But then the same would be said for the living lightning or Thor...As to who simply ha the best displays of it Zeus Thor then storm... Her space feat gathering the ions in the ai to surprise surfer puts her up there but guys like Thor and Zeus don't have actual science based limitations...
You dont think that Storm would come in the top 3 though right?