Silver Surfer the Team Buster guantlet

Originally posted by Warlord
lol you are actually saying that every time amazo copies a powerset he drains his tardet. meaning all the heroes fighting him are drained at that time...no. that's not the case. Amazo just copies powersets

you also say takion can do it cause he comands the source of energy in DC. Surfer and quasar comand it in MU.

For those who consider JLA Avengers cannon even Monica Rambeau drianed Kyle

Originally posted by lightyeargee
Lets get some things str8. The last GL ring which Kyle had was NOT the one he has now. It was different and more powerful. Surfer and Quasar do not command the source of power in Marvel. That would be the Heart of the universe or the power gem depending on how you look at it. Amazo siphon opies. At any rate, he has the GL power so he drains them with said power. Surfer and Quasar do not have the GL power. And since you think they just drain the ring, what happens if they are immediately absorbed into the ring? It's been done and there is no escaping unless the ring bearer lets you out.

OK Amazo drains powers. That's why Superman or Wonder Woman have no powers when they fight.

OK Surfer and Quasar do not command the source of ENERGY in MU. Energy does not originate from the quantum zone and the power cosmic despite it is said so multiple times. It does come from the power gem. 😱

OK surfer and quasar would get drained by the ring cause in comics we see a GL absobing people more often than the ring being absorbed

Originally posted by Warlord
OK Amazo drains powers. That's why Superman or Wonder Woman have no powers when they fight.

OK Surfer and Quasar do not command the source of ENERGY in MU. Energy does not originate from the quantum zone and the power cosmic despite it is said so multiple times. It does come from the power gem. 😱

OK surfer and quasar would get drained by the ring cause in comics we see a GL absobing people more often than the ring being absorbed

Originally posted by lightyeargee
The Source powers everything in the DCU. The Power gem or Heart power everything in the MU. The power cosmic and the quantum zones would be nothing more than extentions of the heart. Superman and Wonder Womando get siphoned when Smazo fights them and then he copies. Didn't say he drained them, just that he siphons. Once amazo siphon's a GL's power he then an act like a battery and drain then. In every ase you mentioned, there is some connection to actual GL power to them being drained. Surfer nor Quasar have actual GL power. Monica even had to opy Kyle's power first, before she could drain him. She had to become Will Power. Quasar nor Surfer are doing that.Also as I stated in theOP, this is Kyle's classsic uber ring. Not some weak sauce charged ring.

totally wrong...she just needed to find the correct energy frequency to drain the ring. something which Surfer and Quasar can do much more easilly....
the power gem has nothing to do with energy. POwer cosmic is the source of all ENERGY types in Marvel as is the quantum zone with the exception of darkforce.

Amazo does NOT drain heroes. at least not on his casual apearances.
They retain their powers against him. He is just too powerful for them. What you are discribing is the parasite.

Originally posted by Warlord
totally wrong...she just needed to find the correct energy frequency to drain the ring. something which Surfer and Quasar can do much more easilly....
the power gem has nothing to do with energy. POwer cosmic is the source of all ENERGY types in Marvel as is the quantum zone with the exception of darkforce.

Amazo does NOT drain heroes. at least not on his casual apearances.
They retain their powers against him. He is just too powerful for them. What you are discribing is the parasite.

Meant to say I would not say Takion ould drain surfer because the source does not power the power cosmic.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
Again your logic is flawed. If Takion where fighting surfer, I would say Takioncould depower the power cosmic because the source does not power the power cosmic. On the other Hand, he could depower Quasar since the source does power Quantum energy. Surfer Nor Quasar power the emotion of will power. Also, The heart of the universe powers the power cosmic. It is Marvel's the source. Also, when Monica and GL were fighting, Kyle had his weaker ring. The ION saga was concluded then. No more dual might ring. His uber ring was osmic and magical. Quasar and surfer will not be easily synthesizing that ring. By the time they ould they would be Ko'd. Plus for this gauntlet, Kyle has Captain Atom who is an uber absorber in his own right. How again would surfer absorb Kyle's double powered ring while fighting off CA and Flash? In any ase every time a GL is drained that I an recall, it's by something or someone with emotion based power themselves or a battery like the Manhunters. Sorry for errors. On cell.

again, no. the quantum zone of MU =/= quantum energy in DC.
weaker ring or not (whic I don't remember being stated) Monica was able to drain him via energy manipulation something the even new ring has not defences against.
The new ring being magical in natur is something I hear ffor the first time and maybe I'm wrong in this. I would say Surfer or Quasar would have a hard time draining Allan Scott. A common GL ring however, that they can do. Again Dr Light has done it and it was NOT emotional based. Just like Amazo...

Finally: I have no doubt that team 6 can beat Surfer...what I was saying all allong is that team 5 have equal chances

bye for now 😉

Originally posted by Warlord
again, no. the quantum zone of MU =/= quantum energy in DC.
weaker ring or not (whic I don't remember being stated) Monica was able to drain him via energy manipulation something the even new ring has not defences against.
The new ring being magical in natur is something I hear ffor the first time and maybe I'm wrong in this. I would say Surfer or Quasar would have a hard time draining Allan Scott. A common GL ring however, that they can do. Again Dr Light has done it and it was NOT emotional based. Just like Amazo...

Finally: I have no doubt that team 6 can beat Surfer...what I was saying all allong is that team 5 have equal chances

bye for now 😉

Originally posted by lightyeargee
You missed it. Kyle's old ring was the magical and cosmic one. The one monica absorbed was the newer weaker one. And dr. Light controls light. Surfer and Quasar don't do that do they?

Do you even READ any comics with Surfer and Quasar in it??? >_<

Originally posted by Warlord
Takion doesn't have energy draining feats to suggest he is greater...all he has is the"avatar of the source" nickname

who is above Quasar. he's in a different league.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
You missed it. Kyle's old ring was the magical and cosmic one. The one monica absorbed was the newer weaker one. And dr. Light controls light. Surfer and Quasar don't do that do they?

they do actually...Surfer can do it easily power cosmic can affect light as well. quantum energy is the source of electromagnetic spectrum (which includes light) among others