Originally posted by r0nm0n88
well i missed the last issue of the planet busting tournament crossover. but i heard glads was winning.
shit they dont go around showing every character busting planet. but do you honestly think superman and thor cant do it?and do you honestly think that 10 consecutive punches from anyone of the people i have mentions wouldnt KO wwh?
cause if you dont think either, than no need to debate.
I think Supes could destroy a planet given time, along with Thor. They do not have the feats.
Do you think 10 punches from WWH would KO Superman or Thor?
Originally posted by lightyeargee
100 tons times 100 would be 10,000 tons right? WW, Superman, CM, and PG are all Far above 10,000 tons. Way way above that. In the Millions or even Billions.
I guess that it is common knowledge that a "100 toner" in MU means one that can exceed 100 tons in strength not one that lifts 100.
Most 100 toners have feats way above 100 so the multiplication above is flawed.
P.S. close this thread
Originally posted by carver9
I think Supes could destroy a planet given time, along with Thor. They do not have the feats.Do you think 10 punches from WWH would KO Superman or Thor?
i think 3 or 4 from wwh would take out supes, and 2 for thor. im talking clean hits. with really no defense. I do put wwh above supes in strength, durability ill give to wwh when you factor in healing factor ans such. but speed is just to much in supes favor. i feel as if he would just overwhelm him with attacks so long as cis and pis are off. same thing for glads. and anyother superstrong superfast guy on supes level.
okay and for this ill just use glads. since we both agree he can bust a planet with a punch, correct? well anyway glads punches hulk 5 times before hulk can react, im talking major full strength hits. what do you think happens to WWhulk?
Originally posted by r0nm0n88
i think 3 or 4 from wwh would take out supes, and 2 for thor. im talking clean hits. with really no defense.
Clean hits, sure.
I think the punch from Parasite amped up on Kryptonite X is probably comparable, and that knocked him out. Didn't kill him though, or cause serious injury... (That's a really good durability feat for him, when you think about it.. I mean, Superman with the same power was knocking Bizarro around by gently brushing him with his fingers, and that was before he "hulked out"..)
The main problem that goes with these pile-ons, are tactics. Not all of the combatants involved are moving at the speed of Gladiator, such as Thor, Namor, She Hulk, Beta Ray Bill... the exeception here is Binary. She can and has also moved naturally in a higher speed class than WW-Hulk.
This is where things become complicated, In World Breaker Strength mode, WW-Hulk will reach a new state of body armor toughness, he also (according to HUlk-Lore) achieves greater burst speeds with increased strength.
In essence this scenario would work "well" (<= KEYWORD) in WW-Hulks favor, and give him many advantages. Let's keep in mind that the Green Skaar was calculating and highly intelligent. There are five combatants, including Thor that he could use a human mace, or shield (against Gladiator's speed) WW-Hulks greatest weapon was his mind.
Keep in mind that Banner was in control of the WW-Hulk persona, he was not the childish, and uncertain Hulk that was quikly dealt with by Rulk.
This goes out to anyone that has read the Planet Hulk storyline.
I have evidence that WW-Hulk could amp at will by focusing his rage on any given physical feat., or obstacle. He was able to lift, shift, and hold a continental plate in place, saving an entire planet from destruction.
This did not take him 5 minutes, he amped to this level in under 5 seconds. Korg did help in this feat of course by prodding him, but the work was all his.
As for guys like Namor, Binary, She Hulk, Thor, BR Bill they could easily be used as shields in a pile on battle scenario, and used against their partners as Despero did to the JLA. No one can ignore the Green Skaars battle prowess and ingenuity on a battlefield. He would take his lumps, but the way that he heals would compensate for the abuse.
I'm willing to bet that 5 or at the most 6 world breaker hits could take Thor or BR Bill out of the fight, What of the Hulks ability to pull one of the combatants under ground and pummel them? In the storyline "Hulk Future Imperfect" the Hulk showed that he was proficient at tunneling underground, and these are tactics that the Green Skaar would employ if well written. He wouldn't stand there and take a beating. but he would be giving a lot of beatings.... He did one shot Ares God of War, the same Ares that would have killed A-Bomb when they tussled. He basically walked over a class 100 She Hulk showing her that he could have crushed her face if he was willing to.
My answer is yes WW-Hulk could beat this group if he was written to act like the calculating character that he was written to be on Sakaar.
Iceman 24567 what Nihilist says is far too simple a solution, these guys would get in each others way, Gladiator alone would do better, but since he has to watch out for his comrades safety, he would be operating at a far less level than he would if he were fighting alone. The same goes for the rest of his team mates.
Originally posted by Stoic
The main problem that goes with these pile-ons, are tactics. Not all of the combatants involved are moving at the speed of Gladiator, such as Thor, Namor, She Hulk, Beta Ray Bill... the exeception here is Binary. She can and has also moved naturally in a higher speed class than WW-Hulk.This is where things become complicated, In World Breaker Strength mode, WW-Hulk will reach a new state of body armor toughness, he also (according to HUlk-Lore) achieves greater burst speeds with increased strength.
In essence this scenario would work "well" (<= KEYWORD) in WW-Hulks favor, and give him many advantages. Let's keep in mind that the Green Skaar was calculating and highly intelligent. There are five combatants, including Thor that he could use a human mace, or shield (against Gladiator's speed) WW-Hulks greatest weapon was his mind.
Keep in mind that Banner was in control of the WW-Hulk persona, he was not the childish, and uncertain Hulk that was quikly dealt with by Rulk.
This goes out to anyone that has read the Planet Hulk storyline.
I have evidence that WW-Hulk could amp at will by focusing his rage on any given physical feat., or obstacle. He was able to lift, shift, and hold a continental plate in place, saving an entire planet from destruction.This did not take him 5 minutes, he amped to this level in under 5 seconds. Korg did help in this feat of course by prodding him, but the work was all his.
As for guys like Namor, Binary, She Hulk, Thor, BR Bill they could easily be used as shields in a pile on battle scenario, and used against their partners as Despero did to the JLA. No one can ignore the Green Skaars battle prowess and ingenuity on a battlefield. He would take his lumps, but the way that he heals would compensate for the abuse.
I'm willing to bet that 5 or at the most 6 world breaker hits could take Thor or BR Bill out of the fight, What of the Hulks ability to pull one of the combatants under ground and pummel them? In the storyline "Hulk Future Imperfect" the Hulk showed that he was proficient at tunneling underground, and these are tactics that the Green Skaar would employ if well written. He wouldn't stand there and take a beating. but he would be giving a lot of beatings.... He did one shot Ares God of War, the same Ares that would have killed A-Bomb when they tussled. He basically walked over a class 100 She Hulk showing her that he could have crushed her face if he was willing to.
My answer is yes WW-Hulk could beat this group if he was written to act like the calculating character that he was written to be on Sakaar.
Originally posted by StoicNah what Nihilist said was pretty accurate people with legit 100ton+ striking power can drop Hulk. Thor and Bill together would hammer shit stomp WWH adding the rest is spite
Iceman 24567 what Nihilist says is far too simple a solution, these guys would get in each others way, Gladiator alone would do better, but since he has to watch out for his comrades safety, he would be operating at a far less level than he would if he were fighting alone. The same goes for the rest of his team mates.
Originally posted by iceman24567
Nah what Nihilist said was pretty accurate people with legit 100ton+ striking power can drop Hulk. Thor and Bill together would hammer shit stomp WWH adding the rest is spite
Did you read my post? It's not as cut and dry as you guys want people to believe. WW-Hulk had his own brilliant tactics, that he would and could employ on either Bill, or Thor. They would have more to worry about than the Hulk in this situation, you just refuse to admit it. Such as injuring a partner in this pile on as the op suggested.
Originally posted by lightyeargee
Gladiator
Beta Ray Bill
Binary
She-Hulk
Namor
ThorNo BFR
ALL heroes attack at the same time.
The heroes are using speed, strength, and minimal energy attacks.