Originally posted by D_Dude1210People aren't entitled to an opinion? I am merely arguing what LR can do. I never gave an opinion. I do think it's hard to beat someone who is a high tier energy manipulator that also has class 100 stats and much faster than FTL combat speeds.
Tell THAT to prep-man and lightyear.
I've yet to see any scans of this or he context behind it... It could be that surfer just changed his Molecular Structure or manipulated the contructs energy frequency.. I need to see the scans and context behind it. Now, the Thanos incident is much different... it shows all these heroes smashing the barrier trying to break... Thanos casually one shots it. No context needed.
Originally posted by lightyeargee
People aren't entitled to an opinion? I am merely arguing what LR can do. I never gave an opinion. I do think it's hard to beat someone who is a high tier energy manipulator that also has class 100 stats and much faster than FTL combat speeds.
Not to mention manipulating multiple forms of energy.
Quasar is the highest tier in terms of energy absorption and tanking energy attacks with his quantum constructs. The problem with this fight is that LR IS an energy manipulator and will definitely have problems with the energy siphoning that is Wendell's bread and butter.
Quasar still wins. Insane LR or not. Just won't be a stomp this time.
Let it be known that Quasar's taken on the Surfer 1v1 in a no-holds barred fight. It was a stalemate until Wendell threw the fight. And the Surfer is ALL of those that you mentioned and then some.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210LR was taking it Physically to Takion. Takion says that LR was almost as powerful as he. In his enraged state, he was on another lvl.
Quasar is the highest tier in terms of energy absorption and tanking energy attacks with his quantum constructs. The problem with this fight is that LR IS an energy manipulator and will definitely have problems with the energy siphoning that is Wendell's bread and butter.Quasar still wins. Insane LR or not. Just won't be a stomp this time.
Let it be known that Quasar's taken on the Surfer 1v1 in a no-holds barred fight. It was a stalemate until Wendell threw the fight. And the Surfer is ALL of those that you mentioned and then some.
Originally posted by lightyeargee
LR was taking it Physically to Takion. Takion says that LR was almost as powerful as he. In his enraged state, he was on another lvl.
And Quasar was taking it to a freakin WATCHER. Also, just because someone says something doesn't mean it's true. And ALMOST doesn't really cut it.
Another level or not, Quasar's powerset gives him the win (not how powerful he is, but how his powers work).
Originally posted by D_Dude1210oh so we are going by how powers work? LF's mother box manipulates Q's energy, heals LR over and Over and boost his power even more. All while matter manipulating quasar into a bird.
And Quasar was taking it to a freakin WATCHER. Also, just because someone says something doesn't mean it's true. And ALMOST doesn't really cut it.Another level or not, Quasar's powerset gives him the win (not how powerful he is, but how his powers work).
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Originally posted by lightyeargee
oh so we are going by how powers work? LF's mother box manipulates Q's energy, heals LR over and Over and boost his power even more. All while matter manipulating quasar into a bird.
Wow. Desperate much?
Yes, we DO go by how powers work. Show me LR's MB performing the above abilities all at once while fighting a being similar to Quasar's power and you can talk. Otherwise, pulling stuff out of ur butt only really results in shitty arguments. :-/
Originally posted by D_Dude1210Watcher has a bunch of lower showings to be over highfather. Really. He's been smacked in the lip by Rulk.anyway, once LR gets physical he has the advantage. Vast energy manip plus way better stats. Do you think Quasar ould beat Captain Marvel with a GL ring? That would be close to what LR would be.
Watcher > Highfather. :-/Also, Highfather beat him with a wave of a hand on a separate encounter. That feat looks to be PIS-y.
Originally posted by lightyeargee
Watcher has a bunch of lower showings to be over highfather. Really. He's been smacked in the lip by Rulk.
The same PIS-Rulk who killed the Surfer and took his powers, punked Odinforce Thor and killed an Elder of the Universe (something even Galactus hasn't been able to do) in a few shots?
Really really really bad example borne out of desperation there.
Originally posted by lightyeargee
anyway, once LR gets physical he has the advantage. Vast energy manip plus way better stats. Do you think Quasar ould beat Captain Marvel with a GL ring? That would be close to what LR would be.
No he won't. His powers are still energy based. I keep saying that Quasar will simply siphon his energy away with his constructs to strengthen them further. I don't doubt LR's power levels. It's just powersets here than makes this a one-sided match in Quasar's favor.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
The same PIS-Rulk who killed the Surfer and took his powers, punked Odinforce Thor and killed an Elder of the Universe (something even Galactus hasn't been able to do) in a few shots?Really really really bad example borne out of desperation there.
But using Quasar taking it to a watcher as proof that Lightray is toast isn't?
It's a good feat, but doesn't mean Lightrays completely outclassed. Not any more then Dr. Strange standing up to the Infinity Gauntlet or Dr. Fate standing up to Spectre make their fights inarguable..
I'm siding with Quasar though... Mainly because Lightray isn't the best fighter, having been punked by both Kalibak and Orion (Against dark Lightray)
