Dr. Manhattan vs Monarch

Started by Gecko4lif7 pages

Originally posted by Black bolt z
IMO these can put him above surfer.

Im pretty sure surfer has done everything on that list except re-create himself

and that is just coming form someone who doesnt know all of surfers feats

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Im pretty sure surfer has done everything on that list except re-create himself

and that is just coming form someone who doesnt know all of surfers feats

He can't teleport himself,he can't re-build himself,he cant see far into his furture.

I've read a lot of surfer comics and IMO Manhattan is just above him.I know the only real threats Dr. M ever faced were humans but he also re-atomized himself.

I would like to add to the list.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I'll list Dr. M's powers and people tell me if he can win.

He was walked on the surface of the sun
He can change his size at will
He has matter manipulation and can turn things like bottles into snowflakes
He has seen events so small they can hardly have said to have occurred
He can blow people up on a whim
He can teleport himself and other people across the galaxy
He can re-build himself after being de-atomized
He can see far into his own future(not his enemies)
He's bullet proof(meaning hes better then thor 😖hifty:
He can levitate objects with precision

So far thats what I remember.

He was able to disassemble every part of a tank and crush it in a second.
He has a big blue dick
He is pretty much immortal(as far as age goes)

Monarch

SS can do just about anything Manhattan can, and in a fight he could take 10/10, manhattan has weaknesses and SS has none.

Originally posted by King Kandy
SS can do just about anything Manhattan can, and in a fight he could take 10/10, manhattan has weaknesses and SS has none.
WTF is manhattens weakness?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
He can't teleport himself,he can't re-build himself,he cant see far into his furture.

I've read a lot of surfer comics and IMO Manhattan is just above him.I know the only real threats Dr. M ever faced were humans but he also re-atomized himself.

Obviously you haven't read enough Surfer comics. He's done all of those.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
He can't teleport himself,he can't re-build himself,he cant see far into his furture.

I've read a lot of surfer comics and IMO Manhattan is just above him.I know the only real threats Dr. M ever faced were humans but he also re-atomized himself.

I would like to add to the list. He was able to disassemble every part of a tank and crush it in a second.
He has a big blue dick
He is pretty much immortal(as far as age goes)

Dr. M doesnt see in his future he actually lives it it and the past at the same time, and surfer has done time related feats. Eh dont know if he teleports but he really doesn't need to anyway, not like that power itself means anythign though. And wow he rebuilt himself from the same attack that gave him his power, that didn't really impress me much.

Originally posted by King Kandy
SS can do just about anything Manhattan can, and in a fight he could take 10/10, manhattan has weaknesses and SS has none.

I don't see how Manhattan has any weaknesses that Surfer doesn't also have.

Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
Obviously you haven't read enough Surfer comics. He's done all of those.
When has he teleported?I know he can move so damn fast it doesn't make that much of a difference but he can't teleport.

And when has he re-built himself after de-atomization?

And surfer only has cosmic awareness to a small extent.AFAIK manhatten can see his whole furture.All of it.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
When has he teleported?I know he can move so damn fast it doesn't make that much of a difference but he can't teleport.

And when has he re-built himself after de-atomization?

And surfer only has cosmic awareness to a small extent.AFAIK manhatten can see his whole furture.All of it.

He can see all of it but he literally can't act on it, because hes not just seeing it he's experiancing it. He is living in every moment at the same time, everything is already set in stone for him. Like he said hes just a puppt who can see the strings

And human Manhattan survived the very same little atomization so its only logical doing it twice wouldnt do anything to him.

Originally posted by jalek moye
He can see all of it but he literally can't act on it, because hes not just seeing it he's experiancing it. He is living in every moment at the same time, everything is already set in stone for him. Like he said hes just a puppt who can see the strings

And human Manhattan survived the very same little atomization so its only logical doing it twice wouldnt do anything to him.

So because you have been de-atomized before that makes it easier?

Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
Obviously you haven't read enough Surfer comics. He's done all of those.

And he should be able to recreate Manhattans weakness easily (Which would be fairly common knowledge, but even if it wasn't Surfer could probably figure it out with his cosmic senses..)

Originally posted by cdtm
And he should be able to recreate Manhattans weakness easily (Which would be fairly common knowledge, but even if it wasn't Surfer could probably figure it out with his cosmic senses..)
What weakness does manhattan have?None that I know of.

Takions.

He can reform, but it should take him out long enough to count as a win.

Plus, Surfer can probably simply absorb him, as he has the Uni-Lord, or trap him in his board.

Originally posted by cdtm
Takions.

He can reform, but it should take him out long enough to count as a win.

Plus, Surfer can probably simply absorb him, as he has the Uni-Lord, or trap him in his board.

All the taikons did was stop him from seeing into his own future.Besides he can't change his own furture anyway.So its hardly a weakness.

Reform from what?If he comes back in a few seconds it doesn't count as a win.

Manhattan can escape.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
So because you have been de-atomized before that makes it easier?

Umm the the weapon that de-atomized you gave you powers, im pretty sure getting hit with it again wont be abig deal.

Originally posted by jalek moye
Umm the the weapon that de-atomized you gave you powers, im pretty sure getting hit with it again wont be abig deal.
First time it de-atomized him he re-built himself and got powers

second time he was de-atomized he came back in a minute.I don't see how getting de-atomized gets any easier...

Originally posted by Black bolt z
First time it de-atomized him he re-built himself and got powers

second time he was de-atomized he came back in a minute.I don't see how getting de-atomized gets any easier...

The tear down of his intristic field gave him the pwoers and allowd him to rebuild himself. Since he already was what it turned him into it became very simple. Tearing down that field does absolutely nothing to him, we dont know if the same effect would happen i he got vaprized a different method.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
All the taikons did was stop him from seeing into his own future.

Didn't Ozy tear him apart using tachyons?

He reformed, but it wasn't instantaneous.

Originally posted by jalek moye
The tear down of his intristic field gave him the pwoers and allowd him to rebuild himself. Since he already was what it turned him into it became very simple. Tearing down that field does absolutely nothing to him, we dont know if the same effect would happen i he got vaprized a different method.
I still don't see it as any differeny but lets agree to disagree.