Originally posted by HewhoknowsallSo Yoda is faster just because his form involves a bunch of ridiculous acrobatics? Nah. The novel and film depict Sidious having no problems keeping up with Yoda, even though the majority of their duel took place within a small Senate pod. That's why I think that if they would've battled in a place where Sidious could have applied his speed more, he would have had the definitive edge.
I'd say that Yoda is faster than Sidious. In the ROTS Yoda vs Sidious scene Yoda was the one jumping around and evading Sidious.
Originally posted by Galan007
So Yoda is faster just because his form involves a bunch of ridiculous acrobatics? Nah. The novel and film depict Sidious having no problems keeping up with Yoda, even though their duel took place within a small Senate pod. That's why I think that if they would've battled in a place where Sidious could have applied his speed more, he would have had the definitive edge.
What evidence is there for that?
^ There's nothing explicitly stating that Mace was moving faster against Palpatine than Yoda was. However, there were a few excerpts which depict Mace (and Palpatine) moving at asinine speeds:
-"The Korun Master seemed to be fading in and out of existence, half swallowed by a thickening black haze in which danced a meter-long bar of sunfire. Mace pressed back the darkness with a relentless straight-ahead march."
-"The shadow he fought, that blur of speed, could that be Palpatine?"
-"Their blades flared and flashed, crashing together with bursts of fire, weaving nets of killing energy in exchanges so fast that Anakin could not truly see them-But he could feel them in the Force. The Force itself roiled and burst and crashed around them, boiling with power and lightspeed ricochets of lethal intent."
-"He could feel the end of this battle approaching, and so could the blur of Sith he faced."
Etc.
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Statements of that magnitude (pertaining to speed) cannot be found in the Palpatine/Yoda battle.
Originally posted by truejediAgain, much of their duel took place within the confines of a small Senate pod. Sidious wouldn't have been able to use his speed to the same degree he did in his relatively unconfined battle with Mace.
would sidious have any reason to move slower against Yoda than he did against Mace?
Originally posted by truejediWhich still doesn't change the fact that they were both moving at unparalleled speeds.
Sidious was the deciding factor of speed against Mace. Mace matched sidious's speed, not the other way around.
Originally posted by Galan007
Again, much of their duel took place within the confines of a small Senate pod. Sidious wouldn't have been able to use his speed to the same degree he did in his relatively unconfined battle with Mace.
On the contrary, when Sidious took down those 3 Jedi (arguably his best speed feat and lightsaber feat) the space was pretty confined.
Originally posted by HewhoknowsallNowhere near as confined as a Senate pod... And his 'best' feats of speed took place while he was fighting Mace (see the excerpts I posted above.)
On the contrary, when Sidious took down those 3 Jedi (arguably his best speed feat and lightsaber feat) the space was pretty confined.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
On the contrary, when Sidious took down those 3 Jedi (arguably his best speed feat and lightsaber feat) the space was pretty confined.
Does anyone else feel that this scene in the movie could have been done a lot better? Saesee Tinn and the other guy (not Kit Fisto) were just standing still. Hell, Coleman Trebor could have cut them down.
I know, this is clearly supposed to be a demonstration of Sidious' awesomeness, but it just looked really bad and slow.
I thought movie canon>c canon, and as far as the movie goes, Sidious wasn't superior to yoda with the force. Maybe he had a little advantage on him, but they were barely equal.
As far as lightsaber duel goes, it's controversy, we never saw him losing his lightsaber in the movie, yet the novelization says he lost it.
Well, as I said, they are pretty equal, so IMO if they were fighting all out, Sidious may have like 51% chances of winning, while in a strict lightsaber fight, I would give a slight advantage to Yoda.
Originally posted by Shoes😂
They both jumped towards the door from the same distance and Yoda arrived there first.
Impeccable!
Originally posted by SWFan4LifeThis statement defines the entire on-screen portrayal of that battle, imo. That's why you almost have to read the novel.
but it just looked really bad and slow.