Originally posted by Bentley
Some Mon-El feats please?
Off the top of my head, from his time as Valor in the early 90's:
He was beating Superman in a Superman/L.E.G.I.O.N. story. Supes actually knocked him through a wall in a cheap shot, but Mon-El eventually beat him down and was strangling him. His own team had to knock him out stop the fight.
He hung with Lobo about as well as anyone.
Originally posted by cdtmThat was Byrne Superman. 🙁
Off the top of my head, from his time as Valor in the early 90's:He was beating Superman in a Superman/L.E.G.I.O.N. story. Supes actually knocked him through a wall in a cheap shot, but Mon-El eventually beat him down and was strangling him. His own team had to knock him out stop the fight.
He hung with Lobo about as well as anyone.
I think Jurgens did the story. Besides, Byrne Superman was still powerful enough to smack around MM, and generally seemed above Wonder Woman.. Not to mention the Darkseid thing.. Don't know what Byrne was thinking on that one, considering his Darkseid is pretty damned powerful.
A possessed Valor also gave Superman trouble in Eclipso, for what that's worth. Superman won, but narrowly.
Originally posted by cdtmIn a physical/Mele Confrontation, Wonder Woman is going to beat or Stalemate every herald in the DCU Except Superman. That is pretty evident in all of her encounters. Superman is>Every Mele/physical Herald in total power.(Cept maybe the Flash)
I think Jurgens did the story. Besides, Byrne Superman was still powerful enough to smack around MM, and generally seemed above Wonder Woman.. Not to mention the Darkseid thing.. Don't know what Byrne was thinking on that one, considering his Darkseid is pretty damned powerful.A possessed Valor also gave Superman trouble in Eclipso, for what that's worth. Superman won, but narrowly.
Originally posted by cdtmWW's main physical Problems have come from Superman, Genocide, Zoom, Amped Doomsday versions, Etc. Nothing to think of as low. Slade. Blah, he's Slade. She's already Stalemated CM so why not BA? http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/12/10/1228285_500x742.jpg
Can't see her stalemating Adam. WW's had her share of problems too, from characters besides Superman...
Originally posted by lightyeargee
WW's main physical Problems have come from Superman, Genocide, Zoom, Amped Doomsday versions, Etc. Nothing to think of as low. Slade. Blah, he's Slade. She's already Stalemated CM so why not BA? http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/12/10/1228285_500x742.jpg
Black Adam seems to be above CM and possibly SM too, WW3 especially may place him low in the trans category, so may not be the best comparison.
And with Marvels, she has the lasso-revert trick for a cheap win too.
Anyway, lightyeargee's statement I think holds true with all the herald level heroes at the least.
Originally posted by King Kandy
And CM was mesmerized and probably not fighting at 100% either. BA would beat WW.