Darth Caedus vs Starkiller

Originally posted by Vorpal Ruin
I agree with the majority that Caedus will win in sabers. I also think he will win in the force. Caedus has many force tecniques that I doubt Starkiller has any knowledge of at all and that would be very beneficial for him. Plus he is incredibly strong in the force, don't put him down just because Luke was able to display more power than him. Who wouldn't Luke be able to do that to? I bet not very many people. Somewhere in LOTF someone said only Luke would be able to match him, meaning that no other Jedi Master in the NJO could. Not Kyp(who people seem to put in the same league as Starkiller as a force titan) Kyle, Saba, Kenth or anyone else.

It would be a good fight, but Caedus is definatly the victor.

Yeah, good argument with the Kyp comparison..

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
King Adas? Galen clone. Ajunta Pall? Galen clone. Sith Emperor? Galen clone. Revan? Gale---GASP! Wouldn't it make perfect sense if Revan was the very same Galen clone as the Sith Emperor? And after his "redemption", he returned back to his empire. The whole point of stopping Malak was to remove a threat. Of course it all makes sense!

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
AND THE ONLY BEING THAT CAN STOP THE ARMY OF GALEN CLONES (THAT ARE OBVIOUSLY WORKING TOGETHER AT THIS POINT) IS THE BANE GESTALT

They were already stopped.

Sith Emperor was already stopped (one would assume), etc.

But...what if Sidious was a Galen clone?

OMG!

I'm going to go with Caedus for the total victory but Malek probably takes the force though I say that tentatively because when Luke fought Vader he was nowhere near his prime and Caedus stood up to him with Luke being at the level of a master rather than a padawan learner. So I'm not exactly sure how the comparison for ability with the force using the Luke vs. Vader fight as a point of reference is credible.

Also the whole Darth Vader issue being the most powerful force user in terms of potential George Lucas has stated in interviews Luke was every bit as powerful as his father and was what his father was "supposed" to be. One of the few reasons I adhere to Luke = Vader is because Luke had minimal training in the ways of the jedi whereas Vader had several decades of experience regardless of not reaching his potential Vader would have still been much stronger in the force than Luke with a handicap if Luke had not been his equal in RoJ. I mean it seems to me that it takes time for someone to utilize their maximum potential and Luke had nowhere near that much. I mean he did pull a Vong ships black hole engine thing out of place and I don't know about you but it seems to me pulling a black hole is rather difficult.
TLDR Vader had experience and still a great deal of power if Luke wasn't his equal in strength his inexperience would have caused self-pwn.

Originally posted by Uriel005
I'm going to go with Caedus for the total victory but Malek probably takes the force though I say that tentatively because when Luke fought Vader he was nowhere near his prime and Caedus stood up to him with Luke being at the level of a master rather than a padawan learner. So I'm not exactly sure how the comparison for ability with the force using the Luke vs. Vader fight as a point of reference is credible.

Also the whole Darth Vader issue being the most powerful force user in terms of potential George Lucas has stated in interviews Luke was every bit as powerful as his father and was what his father was "supposed" to be. One of the few reasons I adhere to Luke = Vader is because Luke had minimal training in the ways of the jedi whereas Vader had several decades of experience regardless of not reaching his potential Vader would have still been much stronger in the force than Luke with a handicap if Luke had not been his equal in RoJ. I mean it seems to me that it takes time for someone to utilize their maximum potential and Luke had nowhere near that much. I mean he did pull a Vong ships black hole engine thing out of place and I don't know about you but it seems to me pulling a black hole is rather difficult.
TLDR Vader had experience and still a great deal of power if Luke wasn't his equal in strength his inexperience would have caused self-pwn.

Well yeah obviously Luke later in his life becomes more powerful than Vader.

I was just commenting that a lot of people always quote "the prophecy" as Anakin being the strongest there ever was or ever will be as well as his absurdly high midichlorian count. Luke didn't have the count done to my knowledge and the most common list of midichlorian counts floating around is purely fan consensus. I myself stick with what Lucas said in that Luke is as powerful as his father was intended to be.

But on the Caedus and Starkiller matter I was just pointing out that it was unfair to use Luke beating Vader as a point of comparison between the two because his level of power from Vaders time to Caedus's is just astronomical.

Anyone putting Galen above caedus in force is implying that Galen would be equal to a prime Luke in the force which just isn’t true.
Sabers: caedus by a LARGE margin
Force: caedus by a small margin
All out: caedus mid difficulty