BP gettin more of our money!

Started by Gadabout2 pages

BP gettin more of our money!

I tell you, it seems it doesn't matter who we put in office...we lose!

There is no way this company should have been awarded another contract. Or am I being naive and narrow minded?

http://gawker.com/5579889/bp-is-still-making-big-money-from-pentagon-oil-contracts

this is retarded. at the very least, this appears to reward, or at least ignore, poor business practices. very unsavy of the USG

😆 New boss, same as the old boss.

If they don´t get any more contracts, that means no more money so how are they gonna pay for all the clean up. They might as well file for bankrupcy, let the US government foot the bill for the clean up and start a new company.

Good job America Gov 👆 fck up some more shit.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
They might as well file for bankrupcy, let the US government foot the bill for the clean up and start a new company.
Before that happens there would be an unfriendly takeover imo.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
If they don´t get any more contracts, that means no more money so how are they gonna pay for all the clean up. They might as well file for bankrupcy, let the US government foot the bill for the clean up and start a new company.

Bit difficult to file for bankruptcy when they're still one of the most profitable companies in the world. (4th after Exxon mobil, Shell and Citigroup)

And that was AFTER the recent disaster...Profits still went up 135%

Did anyone really think the spill would ruin them?

the guy who killed himself thought so..

I get the feeling a lot of Americans think that just because BP is a British company that it's some small two-bit nobody in corporate terms.

What all of you fail to realize (except for jaden) is that there are laws in place that prevent a company from being unfairly knocked out of bidding for a government contract once they've reached a certain point. The bids must be "unbiasedly" or objectively reviewed or you'll end up with a lawsuit that will cost lots of money if it's found out that you (the contract officers on the government side) unfairly turned down a bid, then you could lose your job and the government gets sued. Yes, there are cases like this.

Depends on the agency, but there is a general set of steps that must be followed to win a contract such as initial bids, prelim contracts, final bids, etc.

Obviously, BP was already in talks and had some sort of lock in agreement. It would have been illegal for the government to tell BP to hit the road while the final decision was made between 1 or 2 other bidders. Is there reason to believe that BP would be detrimental to the military operations that require the use of that BP fuel? No. Is there a way to supply fuel in case of a major oil spill? Aboslutely. Did the contracing officers question BP's safetey record and ask for conecssions/changes in their initial offer and SOPs? Probably and BP probably had to make additioanal quanrentees that they wouldn't have had to make.

Let's not forget that BP is not the only oil company that makes mistakes...it just happens that BP is involved a massive oil spill.

I'd certainly like to move away from using oil as an energy source, though.

ok, but in an unbiased view, BP's reckless corporate policy caused a dozen deaths and the largest spill in American history. it is not malicious on the government's part to require objective evidence of reform before engaging them in business.

the only way this could be biased against BP would be if they could show that all other competing oil companies were equally reckless and had such disregard for their own safety standards.

Originally posted by inimalist
ok, but in an unbiased view, BP's reckless corporate policy caused a dozen deaths and the largest spill in American history. it is not malicious on the government's part to require objective evidence of reform before engaging them in business.

the only way this could be biased against BP would be if they could show that all other competing oil companies were equally reckless and had such disregard for their own safety standards.

You have to weigh the other side: what would the loss of that contract mean for military operations?

Will a "new suppler" transistion impact operations beyond the ability to reasonabily cope? Probably.

Will their mistakes in the Gulf affect their distribution operations for the military? Probably not. In fact, they found that not to be the case or else they wouldn't have accepted the offer/retained services.

BP is quite huge.

ok, I get the pragmatics of letting bp keep it's current operations, but that certainly doesn't mean they deserve equal consideration when vying for new contracts

Originally posted by jaden101
Bit difficult to file for bankruptcy when they're still one of the most profitable companies in the world. (4th after Exxon mobil, Shell and Citigroup)

And that was AFTER the recent disaster...Profits still went up 135%

and yet the fuel prices continue to rise? what a bunch of rip of artists.!!

Originally posted by Bicnarok
and yet the fuel prices continue to rise? what a bunch of rip of artists.!!

Mega-corps don't foot the bill for their ****-ups, the consumer does.

Do you think Toyota will end up paying for its shenanigans, or do you think after all the heat has washed away, they'll raise the price on their products ahead of schedule by 0.##% and recoup what should have/would have been a loss in the following decade.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
and yet the fuel prices continue to rise? what a bunch of rip of artists.!!

The irony is that the accident pushed the price of oil up...Hence the financial loss from the accident is offset by the higher price.

Originally posted by Robtard
Did anyone really think the spill would ruin them?

Nooo, I mean, even if they couldn't afford a few billion or hundred billion...,isn't all of that oil still their theirs?

black people getting more of our money ?

Originally posted by inimalist
ok, I get the pragmatics of letting bp keep it's current operations, but that certainly doesn't mean they deserve equal consideration when vying for new contracts

It wasn't a new contract, was it?