Originally posted by Wild ShadowActually, The guy trashed the JLA and then Armored up and got MORE POWERFUL. I love the way you left out what counts to suit your stance. Konvict proved himself by trashing the JLA and One Shotting Superman. What did the guy Warlock do to prove he was even worthy of a great feat?
what are you trying to show?adam warlock fought alone no help.. your WW fight has superman helping and the guy is already worn down by both...
again i ask can you tell us what it is you are trying to show?
he has fought and killed thanos after thanos took on top tier bricks like thor, thing, captain marvel and the rest of earth heroes...
he fought Rune solo who had 5 of the 6 gems,,,
he fought the infinity thrall the physical manifestation of the gems minus the soul gem..
he fought magus repeatedly solo when magus held large portion of the gems.. and defeated and conquered the universe and its champions
same with the goddess....
he has fought and defeated lord abyss in his own dimension where he is supreme and won,..
he has defeated mephisto
the list goes on with warlock
he has allowed himself to be a punching bag by 100+ tonner and pawning them once he has acquired info...
taken down drax the destroyer twice if i recall..
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
he has fought and killed thanos after thanos took on top tier bricks like thor, thing, captain marvel and the rest of earth heroes...he fought Rune solo who had 5 of the 6 gems,,,
he fought the infinity thrall the physical manifestation of the gems minus the soul gem..
he fought magus repeatedly solo when magus held large portion of the gems.. and defeated and conquered the universe and its champions
same with the goddess....
he has fought and defeated lord abyss in his own dimension where he is supreme and won,..
he has defeated mephisto
the list goes on with warlock
he has allowed himself to be a punching bag by 100+ tonner and pawning them once he has acquired info...
taken down drax the destroyer twice if i recall..
The same can be said about Wonder Woman. Her list is just as impressive. She killed Ares. The same guy who Killed Highfather.
Diana has defeated Circe who has pwned the Gods.
She has defeated Demons and Rulers of Hell.
WW has been the Punching Bag of Superman sun amped who is the Best Class 100 in comics.
She's taking Punches from Zoom.
She's channeled the Godwave and fought off an abstract of Chaos. Etc.
And many of Warlock's Feats are specific to his gem and fighting in Soul world. What happens when Warlock is bound to the truth by her lasso? He, the most logical, truthful creature in comics?
whether his feats are specific to his gem or not does not matter he only fought 2 of the guys i listed in soul world,, the rest he did on his own in the MU...
he also didnt even have the soul gem when he faced magus during the infinity war final issue;; he relinquished it and allowed magus to take it..
like i said adam has more tricks up his sleeve then a magician... and this wasnt any magus he was a real god lvl power not the odin lvl standard but near abstract . same for the goddess..
also adam can lie the rope really shouldnt work at all on him b/c of his nature... adam warlock can lie and does b/c it is logical to do so he is not hampered by morality nor emotions..
which is why he was able to assert control of the love potion he was poisoned with and control his emotions minus the one outburst he had initially..
he is also unique that illusions and reality manipulation or soul tampering will not work.. it is further amped by the soul gem...
did i mention the soul gem can attack on its own as well and defend warlock when he is ko'ed or against him in order to protect is life
even when warlock is conscious?
ooh yeah he also has his own weapons like the soul staff that can be bend but never break that he can control since it is an extension of his will/soul...
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
whether his feats are specific to his gem or not does not matter he only fought 2 of the guys i listed in soul world,, the rest he did on his own in the MU...he also didnt even have the soul gem when he faced magus during the infinity war final issue;; he relinquished it and allowed magus to take it..
like i said adam has more tricks up his sleeve then a magician... and this wasnt any magus he was a real god lvl power not the odin lvl standard but near abstract . same for the goddess..
also adam can lie the rope really shouldnt work at all on him b/c of his nature... adam warlock can lie and does b/c it is logical to do so he is not hampered by morality nor emotions..
which is why he was able to assert control of the love potion he was poisoned with and control his emotions minus the one outburst he had initially..
he is also unique that illusions and reality manipulation or soul tampering will not work.. it is further amped by the soul gem...
did i mention the soul gem can attack on its own as well and defend warlock when he is ko'ed or against him in order to protect is life
even when warlock is conscious?
ooh yeah he also has his own weapons like the soul staff that can be bend but never broken that he can control since it is an extension of his will/soul...
Originally posted by Wild Shadowhe isn't as fast as she is and as strong. Plus she doesn't need to manipulate him wir the rope. It is still unbreakable and he can still simply be bound.
like i said warlock ftw and his unigue being would allow him to ignore the ropes power plus the soul gem further amping his resistance to any type of manipulation and compliance adam will always remain true to himself.
Let's not forget stuff like god lightning blasts.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
also adam can lie the rope really shouldnt work at all on him b/c of his nature... adam warlock can lie and does b/c it is logical to do so he is not hampered by morality nor emotions..
Neither mortality nor emotions have to do with why the lasso works, it is simply truth made manifest.
Doing it for logic doesn't mean one can lie. Batman can't lie to the lasso.
Originally posted by Wild ShadowNo. I"m correct. Wondy is uber in combat. So is Warlock. She uses great strength and speed and skill. So does warlock. Warlock has a one hit wonder in his gem. Wondy Has a One hit wonder in her Lasso. Warlock can soul suck. Wondy can decapitate and lasso soul thingy. Warlock can fire energy blast. Wondy can Fire Zeus's Lightning. Warlock Knows spells. Wondy not only knows spells, she is resistant to magic and can outright negate magic altogther. Warlock has Tk. Wondy's Shields are the best in comics. She is every bit his match. And in some cases, his superior. She can channel her soul power to energize her punches and kicks with some kind of soul fire thingy what ever. Name one enemy Warlock has defeated that she cannot?
thats where you are wrong and thinking that is why you can't grasp the concept of why ppl are giving the win over wondy or you have not read enough warlock to understand how unique a character he is even in marvel..
Originally posted by lightyeargeeyeah, not really the same situation but i do agree she wins so....
Battling Armor Form Konvict
just got to show that warlock isn't just a guy who either soul sucks, karmic blasts, or rubs his chin and lays down a philosophical soliloquy that renders his opponent docile. he'll slap a bytch if he has to.
Originally posted by Wild ShadowDont' know who the thrall is. Mephisto can be defeated. Diana has already defeated Rulers of Hell. She's defeated the God Ares. A skyfather who was able to kill other skyfather's. She would be able to defeat Rune in the same Manner Warlock did if he touched her lasso. Then it's her game. She defeated Hectate with Ultimate power. Could Warlock Defeat Ares? A being with no soul? Could he beat the Queen of Fables? Who can literally break Truth and Reality?
the infinity thrall lord abyss, mephisto, magus with 5 of the 6 gems.. rune with 5 of the 6 gems...