Originally posted by -Pr-
he's not the smartest in a fight, though. superman actually is pretty good tactically.
What do you base that asessment of Apoc on? He has been shown able to adapt instantly to most threats. However for some reason he seems in no hurry to finish the fight, trusting his power and enjoying it in most cases. If he is vexed that changes however, like against Stryfe.
Supes seems pretty fond of just mixing it up with his fist, I am not sure that always equals good tactics.
Originally posted by Mshinu
What do you base that asessment of Apoc on? He has been shown able to adapt instantly to most threats. However for some reason he seems in no hurry to finish the fight, trusting his power and enjoying it in most cases. If he is vexed that changes however, like against Stryfe.
Supes seems pretty fond of just mixing it up with his fist, I am not sure that always equals good tactics.
you just answered the question of why apoc isn't a great tactician.
superman uses his fists when that's all he needs to use. he's shown more than once that against enemies strong enough to take his punches that he'll find ways to disable them or seek out their weaknesses.
Originally posted by -Pr-
you just answered the question of why apoc isn't a great tactician.superman uses his fists when that's all he needs to use. he's shown more than once that against enemies strong enough to take his punches that he'll find ways to disable them or seek out their weaknesses.
So we can asume both will use their powers to the fullest then, no?
Apoc`s relaxed confidence in figts he is sure he will win does not hamper him any more than the fact that supes prefer his fists as long as they get the job done.
Originally posted by Mshinu
So we can asume both will use their powers to the fullest then, no?Apoc`s relaxed confidence in figts he is sure he will win does not hamper him any more than the fact that supes prefer his fists as long as they get the job done.
in a forum setting, they'll use their powers to the best of their ability, not their fullest. cis-less rhino isn't suddenly better.
apoc isn't that great a strategist, though. he's great at big reaching plans, but in the thick of it, superman is better imo.
Originally posted by -Pr-
in a forum setting, they'll use their powers to the best of their ability, not their fullest. cis-less rhino isn't suddenly better.apoc isn't that great a strategist, though. he's great at big reaching plans, but in the thick of it, superman is better imo.
Why? Besides having a far far more adaptable powerset than supes, Apoc has been shown very able to go for the quick finish when he wanted. As this is a one on one fight there is also limited strategy involved and in such encounters Poccy has been very able to react with morphing, absoprtion, energy fields, teleportation or whatever the situation warranted. He also has ages of experience on supes.
Originally posted by shiv
Apoc can fire a psi bolt at Superman through the astral plane forcing him speeding or not to turn solid and stop.Apoc has enough power and experience to do this.
He also has the capacity to multitask and bfr
Originally posted by Mshinu
Why? Besides having a far far more adaptable powerset than supes, Apoc has been shown very able to go for the quick finish when he wanted. As this is a one on one fight there is also limited strategy involved and in such encounters Poccy has been very able to react with morphing, absoprtion, energy fields, teleportation or whatever the situation warranted. He also has ages of experience on supes.
powerset isn't shit without the nous to use it. enough people have shown that, not just apoc.
superman has over a thousand years experience. he'll do fine.
Originally posted by shiv
Apoc can fire a psi bolt at Superman through the astral plane forcing him speeding or not to turn solid and stop.Apoc has enough power and experience to do this.
He also has the capacity to multitask and bfr
his telepathy isn't THAT impressive, and superman has stood up to stronger.
Originally posted by Starscream M
superman wouldn't phase though
why not? he's done it in combat before. he's as likely to do it as apoc is.