Originally posted by tkitna
I realize that Genis probably wins, but Manhatten only had one book so its hard to guage how powerful he really was. I do think that Moore intended him to be just shy of god though and I think he gets a raw deal around here.
Originally posted by h1a8
^How so when Dr. M can teleport. If timetraveling is allowed where Vell goes back before Dr. M became then he wins. Otherwise it is at least a stalemate for Dr. M.
Its locked space, Dr. M would have to show if he can overcome Genis spatial ability using some form of point reference.
Originally posted by tkitna
I realize that Genis probably wins, but Manhatten only had one book so its hard to guage how powerful he really was. I do think that Moore intended him to be just shy of god though and I think he gets a raw deal around here.
Thats the nature of putting characters who are from books that are more implication and concept then feats in a vs forum like this
Manhattan was like a god in his world because he was the only super powered being in it. He's impressive but if you threw him in the 616 or New Earth universes he'd simply be one of many herald level beings, with many beings above him. The guy wasn't even capable of stopping a full nuclear strike, something the Surfer, Doc Strange, or Supes would have little trouble with.
Originally posted by "Id"
Its locked space, Dr. M would have to show if he can overcome Genis spatial ability using some form of point reference.
Vell can possibly win by BRF to another dimension.
"Locked space" has no meaning to me. You must provide the definition and show applications of it and how it would relevantly pertain to defeating Dr. M. Be specific!