Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Actually, there is no wrong answer. Just need to explain properly what your tactics will be.I'm leaning towards RR myself as being able to toss people in the field is a very viable tactic. But I can imagine how hard it will be to master his powers with only one day to figure it out. 🙂
All answers all wrong except emma. She can win every match easily by default (knocking them or carrying them to the end of the arena where they die).
Originally posted by Blair Wind
👆He is the most versatile: indestructible skin, burn/explosion proof, ability to strength amp, etc etc.
Indestructible Skin (with a nice strength showing):
http://img153.imageshack.us/i/file0002l.jpg/
http://img338.imageshack.us/i/file0003p.jpg/
http://img18.imageshack.us/i/file0004oe.jpg/
http://img685.imageshack.us/i/file0011r.jpg/Burn/Explosion Proof
http://img682.imageshack.us/i/file0010.jpg/
http://img441.imageshack.us/i/file0012t.jpg/Strength Amping:
http://img534.imageshack.us/i/mrfantastic9ce.jpg/I'd go with Reed. He can out maneuver, out fight, out muscle, out perform (😉) them all, choke them out or even slingshot them into the energy field.
I didn't even take the time to get scans of his sling shotting people (like She-hulk into the stratosphere) because it is such a well known aspect of his power. The others, while having good powers, are not as adaptable as Reed is to all the other powers.
Wow. I didn't know Mr. Fantastic can amp his strength or become stronger.
With that said, I think the OP says doesn't want him to have super strength, just being able to stretch.
If that is true then Emma is stronger and can't be overpowered by him. She can just carry him to the end of the arena where he would be killed by default.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Assuming that you can pick up the stretchy dude and not vice versa of course.
Good point. The stretching dude doesn't have super strength by stipulations of the OP. So I would say he would be hard pressed to lift me from bad leverage point. If he can then I may be wrong.
Originally posted by h1a8
Wow. I didn't know Mr. Fantastic can amp his strength or become stronger.With that said, I think the OP says doesn't want him to have super strength, just being able to stretch.
If that is true then Emma is stronger and can't be overpowered by him. She can just carry him to the end of the arena where he would be killed by default.
It's still stretching. Just stretching/expanding the muscles of the body or putting a large portion of ones density (meaning stretching it) into one area.
Either way, who would be able to really grab him? He can compress himself into areas as small as a rivot hole as shown here:
http://img441.imageshack.us/i/file0007.jpg/
So he can either go with it and then compress himself upon them (ala the hulk showing), or escape in the space between their arms.
And if someone comes charging at him to hit him, he could just act like a bouncing ball and sling shot them away. Sort of like this (with them running instead of jumping):
http://img375.imageshack.us/i/file0009.jpg/
I don't see the others being able to win this.
Does diamond form even breath? If it does, yea, then Reed powers would win, but otherwise pretty good.
Originally posted by marwash22
How well will i be able to throw?... wtf?! I've been throwing all my life, I already said that i wouldn't even waste my time trying to learn card-throwing... I'd use rubble to throw at people.
Yea, normal stuff becomes harder when you have to run fast and dodge around at the same time. That affects aim.
Hastily throw shots tossed over the shoulder are a lot more haphazard than a normal throw.
Also, you still neglect to counter the part about me blowing you up.
Oh, I plan on being made of diamond and rushing you.
Originally posted by h1a8There's also the possibility of screwing up your leverage by spreding out and becoming floppy so that it'd be like trying to pick up a blanket with just two fingers.
Wow. I didn't know Mr. Fantastic can amp his strength or become stronger.With that said, I think the OP says doesn't want him to have super strength, just being able to stretch.
If that is true then Emma is stronger and can't be overpowered by him. She can just carry him to the end of the arena where he would be killed by default.
The human body has a density close to that of water ~ 1000 kg/m^3. Emma frost weighs about 65.3 kg from 144 lbs
V=M/D = 65.3/1000 = 0.0653173013 m^3 or 65,317.3013 cc
The density of a diamond is 3.51 g/cm3
65,317.3013*3.51=229,263.728 g or about 500 pounds.
Originally posted by Blair Windreed stomps completely
👆He is the most versatile: indestructible skin, burn/explosion proof, ability to strength amp, etc etc.
Indestructible Skin (with a nice strength showing):
http://img153.imageshack.us/i/file0002l.jpg/
http://img338.imageshack.us/i/file0003p.jpg/
http://img18.imageshack.us/i/file0004oe.jpg/
http://img685.imageshack.us/i/file0011r.jpg/Burn/Explosion Proof
http://img682.imageshack.us/i/file0010.jpg/
http://img441.imageshack.us/i/file0012t.jpg/Strength Amping:
http://img534.imageshack.us/i/mrfantastic9ce.jpg/I'd go with Reed. He can out maneuver, out fight, out muscle, out perform (😉) them all, choke them out or even slingshot them into the energy field.
I didn't even take the time to get scans of his sling shotting people (like She-hulk into the stratosphere) because it is such a well known aspect of his power. The others, while having good powers, are not as adaptable as Reed is to all the other powers.
Originally posted by Creshoskexactly.
There's also the possibility of screwing up your leverage by spreding out and becoming floppy so that it'd be like trying to pick up a blanket with just two fingers.The human body has a density close to that of water ~ 1000 kg/m^3. Emma frost weighs about 65.3 kg from 144 lbs
V=M/D = 65.3/1000 = 0.0653173013 m^3 or 65,317.3013 cc
The density of a diamond is 3.51 g/cm3
65,317.3013*3.51=229,263.728 g or about 500 pounds.
just like i posted earlier, the more you pull on him the more he can simply loosen his structure and just engulf you.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
just like i posted earlier, the more you pull on him the more he can simply loosen his structure and just engulf you.
Engulfing Emma won't interfere with her walking to the end. She doesn't need air to breath or need to see and she has super strength and great weight. She would be like the juggernaut (relatively).
Originally posted by Creshosk
There's also the possibility of screwing up your leverage by spreding out and becoming floppy so that it'd be like trying to pick up a blanket with just two fingers.The human body has a density close to that of water ~ 1000 kg/m^3. Emma frost weighs about 65.3 kg from 144 lbs
V=M/D = 65.3/1000 = 0.0653173013 m^3 or 65,317.3013 cc
The density of a diamond is 3.51 g/cm3
65,317.3013*3.51=229,263.728 g or about 500 pounds.
She has Superhuman strength and weight. She just pinches a small part of him and walks towards the end without interference. She would be like the Juggernaut.
Good calculations!
Originally posted by Blair Wind
It's still stretching. Just stretching/expanding the muscles of the body or putting a large portion of ones density (meaning stretching it) into one area.Either way, who would be able to really grab him? He can compress himself into areas as small as a rivot hole as shown here:
http://img441.imageshack.us/i/file0007.jpg/So he can either go with it and then compress himself upon them (ala the hulk showing), or escape in the space between their arms.
And if someone comes charging at him to hit him, he could just act like a bouncing ball and sling shot them away. Sort of like this (with them running instead of jumping):
http://img375.imageshack.us/i/file0009.jpg/I don't see the others being able to win this.
A clinched fist or pinch between fingers has NO air between. He will be easy to grab by someone of Superhuman strength. She weighs about 500lb. so I don't see him lifting her. She just carries him (while he's in ANY FORM) to the end.
A clinched fist or pinch between fingers has NO air between. He will be easy to grab by someone of Superhuman strength. She weighs about 500lb. so I don't see him lifting her. She just carries him (while he's in ANY FORM) to the end.
Namor > Emma in strength. And Reed has gotten out of his grasp before.
Not only that, but Reed could ooze himself onto the floor and have them all step on him (while fighting eachother). Then expand into a ball, and slingshot them to the ceiling/energy grid.
Remember, there are other contestants in the arena, it is not just a one on one fight. Reed just is the best answer to the multiple threats the other people pose.
Originally posted by Blair WindEmma is invincible. She is Juggernaut here. Reed getting out of Namor's grasp is either due to PIS or Namor not using his strength to hold Reed properly. Reed CAN'T make himself slippery. He can only control how far he stretches, nothing more. Think of a rubber band.
Namor > Emma in strength. And Reed has gotten out of his grasp before.Not only that, but Reed could ooze himself onto the floor and have them all step on him (while fighting eachother). Then expand into a ball, and slingshot them to the ceiling/energy grid.
Remember, there are other contestants in the arena, it is not just a one on one fight. Reed just is the best answer to the multiple threats the other people pose.
Originally posted by h1a8Given how far he can flatten himself, it's not inconceivable that he could flatten himself out of the person's grip.
Emma is invincible. She is Juggernaut here. Reed getting out of Namor's grasp is either due to PIS or Namor not using his strength to hold Reed properly. Reed CAN'T make himself slippery. He can only control how far he stretches, nothing more. Think of a rubber band.
All your strength means nothing if you don't have the leverage to utilize it.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
reed's powers make smothering and incapacitating a sure win.not sure if emma can be choked out, but she still can't do anything about it.
Emma doesn't need to breath in diamond form.
Originally posted by marwash22
nah, dude. Emma can be blown up in that form, i would think that if you get her power's you also get her weaknesses. If not, we can't restrict Gambit's power to only working on non-organic material.
Emma survived GENOSHA in diamond form. She's not getting blown up by anything less than a diamond bullet to a the near microscopic flaw in her face.
The big problem here is that nobody can put her down, she doesn't fatigue, and she's got enough muscle to one-shot everybody here except Reed's powerset. And the problem there is that Reed takes much more skill to utilize than Emma does. No way someone is going to be shifting his mass into a fist, slipping through her grip, and stretching his whole body in just 24 hours =/
Originally posted by Creshosk
Given how far he can flatten himself, it's not inconceivable that he could flatten himself out of the person's grip.All your strength means nothing if you don't have the leverage to utilize it.
Emma is constantly applying pressure with the pinch. That means as Reed flattens her fingers will move closer together at the same time. It isn't if Reed flattens then her fingers stay that same constant distance apart.
Originally posted by h1a8All it takes is that split second to slip out.
Emma is constantly applying pressure with the pinch. That means as Reed flattens her fingers will move closer together at the same time. It isn't if Reed flattens then her fingers stay that same constant distance apart.
Plus you've still got the problem where she would weigh the same thing as the Thing. What's to keep her from being launched into the field of death?
