Strongest Apprentices, Weakest Masters?

Talking about Sith Masters/Apprentices here, that is, in the "Darth Vader"/second highest Sith around sense of Apprentice, not padawans.

Of the various Sith apprentices who never claimed the top spot, who do you think were best, strongest, and most deserved to be Masters?

Of the Masters who had the spot, who should've never progressed beyond apprentice or otherwise weaker?

For times outside of rule-of-two era, count whoever's atop the Sith in question (be it the Sith Emperor, Kaan, Krayt, etc.) as a Master, and only the top other Sith as Apprentices (those on the Brotherhood's council, the One Sith with specific titles like Hand or Voice, etc.). And anyone else, is too low to matter.

Marek 👆

I'm confuzzled. Are you asking us to rank in terms of power and worth the great Sith apprentices? I.e. Dooku, Vader, Maul, etc.?

Malak should never have held the title of most powerful.

Marek was definitly stronger than Vader.

Originally posted by Gideon
I'm confuzzled. Are you asking us to rank in terms of power and worth the great Sith apprentices? I.e. Dooku, Vader, Maul, etc.?

Yes, as well as conversely the weakest Sith Masters.

In other words, 'who deserves to be in the other position?'.

Marek should have been Vader's Master if we're interested solely in power, otherwise I suppose the other examples kind've corrected themselves.

Originally posted by Gideon
Marek should have been Vader's Master if we're interested solely in power, otherwise I suppose the other examples kind've corrected themselves.

Though sometimes a good potential master never got the top spot due to serving under an even stronger master, like Palpatine or the Sith Emperor, but if they were in other eras may have been able to topple whoever was at top. Or a weak master may have had an even weaker student.

Originally posted by mattatom
Bandon 👆

Lol. I was thinking the exact same thing.

Nihilus. Everyone else is lying.

Yeah... Nihilus became the master.

What was the feat that made Darth Bandon a joke? I can't remember. :/

Originally posted by Vorpal Ruin
What was the feat that made Darth Bandon a joke? I can't remember. :/

Any Masters that seem particularly lacking?

Darth Plagueis! Killed while sleeping? Wow what a noob.

Though he could influence the midichlorians and *might* have been able to create life

He could preserve or destroy life as well just by looking at you, seeing him was literally seeing either your death or your life

He just got shafted. Same with Palpatine.

He sounds to me like he was an excellent sith researcher, but yea. Who'd sleep with Palpatine around?

Can Force users sense danger when they're asleep?

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
He just got shafted. Same with Palpatine.