Originally posted by marwash22Why is it that people vote for matchups with characters they don't even know about, or worse, ones that have no feats to discuss except for obscure reference material that most are unfamiliar with? smh...
GTFO with your failpic, sir.
Originally posted by ScreamPastein your haste to defend your fanboy pokemon vote, i think, perhaps, you forgot to read the portion where i said... "obscure reference material that most are unfamiliar with"
..Maintaining a world wide storm that will wipe all life off of a planet, and reacting to lightning after it's fired aren't feats?GTFO with your failpic, sir.
Sure, Mewtwo has feats, just like Kyle Treger has feats that i can use to argue him being able to beat the shit out of Batman. Problem is, I'm probably one of the few (if not, the only) person familiar 'Kyle XY', so making a 'Kyle vs. Batman' thread would be lame... or fail!
So, are you saying it's wrong to bring in little known feats? Not that they are little known, MewTwo and his movie were popular enough at one time that he got 4 votes for Low Herald within I believe minutes of getting mentioned in the tier thread.
If someone doesn't know, this is why we provide evidence, to put them on even footing for debate. You share, you show, and everyone learns a little something.
Make a Kyle thread and post his feats, BAM, people are now aware. It's not complicated. Also, lol at fanboy pokemon vote? I've never claimed MewTwo wins, I'm simply giving feats and information.
The true fail here, is you're uncomfortable with characters who may not be the most popular appearing in cross-genre. Diversity is good. I'd rather not watch Spiderman v.s. Wolverine and Thor v.s. Supes for years. >_>
Originally posted by marwash22Question: were you in a coma during the late 90s when 75% of all children in America were watching the Pokemon Anime?
in your haste to defend your fanboy pokemon vote, i think, perhaps, you forgot to read the portion where i said... [b]"obscure reference material that most are unfamiliar with"Sure, Mewtwo has feats, just like Kyle Treger has feats that i can use to argue him being able to beat the shit out of Batman. Problem is, I'm probably one of the few (if not, the only) person familiar 'Kyle XY', so making a 'Kyle vs. Batman' thread would be lame... or fail! [/B]
When the movie was released it briefly held the record for the opening week of an Animated Movie (until Toy Story 2 knocked it off a few weeks later).
There's nothing obscure about FG Pokemon, in fact you could argue that world wide most comic book characters are more obscure than Mew-Two (not Magneto of course, he's very high profile).
Originally posted by Omega VisionNope. I was a huge fan of the Pokemon tv show when i was kid, i also watched the first movie and I had the cards. None of that helps to discern if Mewtwo can beat Magneto in a fight.
Question: were you in a coma during the late 90s when 75% of all children in America were watching the Pokemon Anime?
Question: are you only familiar with the word "obscure" as it pertains to whether or not something is popular? Sure, people know who Mewtwo is, but as evident by overwhelming lack of debate thus far... no one knows exactly what Mewtwo can do... his powers are obscure! Everyone here knows what Magneto can and cannot do, you can't say the same for his opponent. Same thing occurred in the "Masterchief vs. Deathstroke" thread.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteThat's not what I'm saying at all. read the above.
So, are you saying it's wrong to bring in little known feats?
This is the Comic vs. forum. I would be surprised if anyone here didn't know who Magneto was, just as I would be surprised if anyone in Games vs. didn't know who Master Chief was. Similarly, I doubt many Games vs. regulars knows the specifics about Magneto's powerset, just as the Comics vs. regulars weren't aware of Master Chief's stupid books.
This is the point of the Cross-Genre threads (in my opinion, of course): to bring to light characters that not everyone may be familiar with. If this same thread were to be held in another forum, there's quite a large chance that Magneto would be the more obscure one. I myself was not aware that Magneto could control the iron in people's blood until I visited another comic based forum.
All I'm saying is just because everyone in Comic vs. knows what Magneto can do, there's not a guarantee that someone unfamiliar with comics in general will know that same information, and I happen to be one of them. But what I do know, as do Scream and Moo, is what Mewtwo can do. In this thread all I've seen both of them attempting to spread some information on Mewtwo, while no one really listened and was more concerned with with Mewtwo's status as a Pokemon (except a select few.)
I haven't seen much argument for Magneto, probably because no one seems to want to bother posting feats. And that's probably because everyone thinks that everyone else already knows what Magneto can do. And no one wants to argue what they think everyone knows.
Originally posted by marwash22
Nope. I was a huge fan of the Pokemon tv show when i was kid, i also watched the first movie and I had the cards. None of that helps to discern if Mewtwo can beat Magneto in a fight.Question: are you only familiar with the word "obscure" as it pertains to whether or not something is popular? Sure, people know who Mewtwo is, but as evident by overwhelming lack of debate thus far... no one knows exactly what Mewtwo can do... his powers are obscure! Everyone here knows what Magneto can and cannot do, you can't say the same for his opponent. Same thing occurred in the "Masterchief vs. Deathstroke" thread.
That's not what I'm saying at all. read the above.
In any case you're derailing the thread. Either debate or leave.
you're not understanding. It's not about me liking or disliking the feats, i never said a single thing to that effect. The point is, Mewtwo doesn't have the amount of exposure (his powers aren't as identifiable as Magneto's or other characters) and that makes it hard to debate properly.
Relax guy, it's my opinion... one that seems to be supported by the fact that there isn't a whole lot of action in this thread (besides this pointless back and forth). Me pointing it out, was simply a gesture to express the futility in voting for threads in which contain characters who do not have straightforward power-sets. Telling me stfu and gfto isn't necessary as all I'm pointing out is that the thread isn't that exciting and perhaps it can be avoided in the future.
Originally posted by Lord_TalronEh, generally neither side is fully aware of the other side's capability, outside of the recent Kain v.s. Spidey debate, anyway.
these things should have polls
I think it would be a bit meh.
Originally posted by Lord_Talron
mewtwo, but close