Originally posted by Scythe
I thought it was really entertaining and fun. Only thing that made me sit there and facepalm was the over(kill?) wanking of Marines and all that bullshit. Puh-Leaze. I was surprised that Sam 2 from Transformers 2 was in it and didn't scream like a girl that much.
yeah right, They were supposed to be badass but instead we get trainees and shit. The movie was way to convenient. They found the Aliens communication ship, come on...,come on. This movie is some ol bullshit.
Deary me...Does noone have an appreciation for big explosions and cheesy dialogue any more?
People still hail Independence Day as a top notch humans vs aliens all out cheesy action flick and were willing to suspend their disbelief of such stupidity as as an alcoholic crop duster shouting "I'm BAA-AACKK" as he pilots an F-16 into a colossal space ship and brings it crashing to earth but aren't willing to forgive some of the cheese from this film?
Have people got that cynical?...Complaining about an alien invasion sci-fi movie because it's not realistic or believable?....Seriously?
I thought it was ****ing great...Why?...Because I don't give a shit if the marines tactics aren't like what they would do in a real alien invasion. Who even gives a shit about that?
I think a lot of people in here need to re-examine why they bother going to watch movies in the 1st place...Because it's supposed to be for entertainment...
I actually think there's deeper resentment behind people's dislike of movies that portray western militaries as heroic because it's so far removed from the notion that our armies are a bunch of evil civilian murdering invaders that the media has pumped into us for the last decade. It's OK people...You're allowed to watch a movie and think "**** yeah, army people...kick some alien ass" without feeling guilty about actually liking the characters and what they're doing.
I think you missed everyones point Jaden. The fact i think most people were trying to make is that there was no concentration on the antagonist other than...,"hey there's aliens here! go kill them". That's it dude. That was the only explanation that we really received. The aliens may as well have been Koreans. That is exactly how the actors acted in response to the aliens. Even the action was sub-par man, at least by todays standards. Personally i couldn't wait for them to find what ever miracle shot they needed to kill the aliens, so i could go home. What happened at the end of the movie...,they present a miracle just like star wars, ID4 and all the other trash that star wars has inspired. That is when i was done..,game over dude. To much of a happy black hawk down ending for me. Those Aliens would have incinerated everyone and there wouldn't be a damn thing anyone could do about it.
So, would you have preferred spending ten dollars to see a movie that is ten minutes long, spending the first minute showing the aliens arriving at Earth, and the remaining nine minutes showing how their laser beam or what have you ignites the atmosphere and kills us all, after which the credits roll? That's the closest thing to a realistic alien invasion I can think of.
It's also not very entertaining at all. 😐
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
I think you missed everyones point Jaden. The fact i think most people were trying to make is that there was no concentration on the antagonist other than...,"hey there's aliens here! go kill them". That's it dude. That was the only explanation that we really received. The aliens may as well have been Koreans. That is exactly how the actors acted in response to the aliens. Even the action was sub-par man, at least by todays standards. Personally i couldn't wait for them to find what ever miracle shot they needed to kill the aliens, so i could go home. What happened at the end of the movie...,they present a miracle just like star wars, ID4 and all the other trash that star wars has inspired. That is when i was done..,game over dude. To much of a happy black hawk down ending for me. Those Aliens would have incinerated everyone and there wouldn't be a damn thing anyone could do about it.
Which is what made Skyline such a great movie eh?...Because the ending was more in tune with what would've actually happened.
I've obviously not missed your point when you've just restated the same point.
I wonder what every war/battle movie would be like if the superior force won every time because that's what is more likely to happen if it were realistic.
The humans would've been wiped out in Lord of the Rings...The rebels would've been destroyed in no time in star wars.
These movies would've been drastically improved with those endings because it's far more likely than miraculous happy endings...right?
Yeah...right.
[QUOTE=13278153]Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
So, would you have preferred spending ten dollars to see a movie that is ten minutes long, spending the first minute showing the aliens arriving at Earth, and the remaining nine minutes showing how their laser beam or what have you ignites the atmosphere and kills us all, after which the credits roll? That's the closest thing to a realistic alien invasion I can think of.
It's also not very entertaining at all. 😐 [/QUOTE
Well something more creative than the same ol song and dance. Water? Water is one of the most abundant resources in the universe. What kind of explanation is that. I let that slide though because i wanna have a good time. I don't need to see a burning cinder but maybe an ending that doesn't end with the Marines going Hoo RA as they kick alien ass. Maybe, not everyone makes it out okay next time. Maybe the hope for humanity goes unwritten. Maybe the aliens have a civil war. Some want to help us. Dude, I don't get paid thousands of dollars to write or i would be making movies. I just have to watch what tripe they throw at me. I'm sorry if you enjoyed yours but i expect something better than...,a glorified advertisement for the marine Corps. 😠
Originally posted by jaden101
Which is what made Skyline such a great movie eh?...Because the ending was more in tune with what would've actually happened.I've obviously not missed your point when you've just restated the same point.
I wonder what every war/battle movie would be like if the superior force won every time because that's what is more likely to happen if it were realistic.
The humans would've been wiped out in Lord of the Rings...The rebels would've been destroyed in no time in star wars.
These movies would've been drastically improved with those endings because it's far more likely than miraculous happy endings...right?
Yeah...right.
Yeah, i actually thought skylines ending was great. The movie was decent at best but good ending 😂
The humans wouldn't have been wiped out in lord of the rings. There was logic behind that dude. There was logic behind the star wars rebels. This was just some ol bullshit.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
[QUOTE=13278153]Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
[B]So, would you have preferred spending ten dollars to see a movie that is ten minutes long, spending the first minute showing the aliens arriving at Earth, and the remaining nine minutes showing how their laser beam or what have you ignites the atmosphere and kills us all, after which the credits roll? That's the closest thing to a realistic alien invasion I can think of.It's also not very entertaining at all. 😐
[/QUOTEWell something more creative than the same ol song and dance. Water? Water is the most abundant in the universe. What kind of explanation is that. I let that slide though because i wanna have a good time. I don't need to see a burning cinder but maybe an ending that doesn't end with the Marines going Hoo RA as they kick alien ass. Maybe, not everyone makes it out okay next time. Maybe the hope for humanity goes unwritten. Maybe the aliens have a civil war. Some want to help us. Dude, I don't get paid thousands of dollars to write or i would be making movies. I just have to watch what tripe they throw at me. I'm sorry if you enjoyed yours but i expect something better than...,a glorified advertisement for the marine Corps. 😠 [/B]
And you say I missed your point?...Oh the irony.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNxThe humans wouldn't have been wiped out in lord of the rings. There was logic behind that dude. There was logic behind the star wars rebels. This was just some ol bullshit.
There was logic in the Empire being ass whooped by a bunch of tree dwelling midget bears?
There was logic in the shockwave from Sauron's tower miraculously collapsing the ground exactly where the bad guys were but left the ground where the good guys were completely untouched?
Yet there was no logic in Battle LA?
If you say so.
Yeah, i actually thought skylines ending was great. The movie was decent at best but good ending 😂
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Originally posted by jaden101
Deary me...Does noone have an appreciation for big explosions and cheesy dialogue any more?People still hail Independence Day as a top notch humans vs aliens all out cheesy action flick and were willing to suspend their disbelief of such stupidity as as an alcoholic crop duster shouting "I'm BAA-AACKK" as he pilots an F-16 into a colossal space ship and brings it crashing to earth but aren't willing to forgive some of the cheese from this film?
Have people got that cynical?...Complaining about an alien invasion sci-fi movie because it's not realistic or believable?....Seriously?
I thought it was ****ing great...Why?...Because I don't give a shit if the marines tactics aren't like what they would do in a real alien invasion. Who even gives a shit about that?
I think a lot of people in here need to re-examine why they bother going to watch movies in the 1st place...Because it's supposed to be for entertainment...
I actually think there's deeper resentment behind people's dislike of movies that portray western militaries as heroic because it's so far removed from the notion that our armies are a bunch of evil civilian murdering invaders that the media has pumped into us for the last decade. It's OK people...You're allowed to watch a movie and think "**** yeah, army people...kick some alien ass" without feeling guilty about actually liking the characters and what they're doing.
Actually sorta agree with this, or at least the premise that hating on this movie based on the fact that it isn't realistic is a bit silly.
That said, I think the movie is shit because I found it to be supremely boring and redundant. Didn't give a shit about what was going on on screen, so the novelty of things going boom and people yelling over and over with only the backdrop slightly changing got tired real fast.
I like Independence Day more than this one because it was way more fun and didn't try to present itself as some kinda of thoughtful or powerful film in the trailers, as this one did, when in reality it was just a director/writer having a hard on for big explosions and military jargon.
Originally posted by BackFireI like Independence Day more than this one because it was way more fun and didn't try to present itself as some kinda of thoughtful or powerful film in the trailers, as this one did, when in reality it was just a director having a hard on for big explosions.
Have you still not learned the lesson about trailers yet?
The Road being the ultimate example of making a film look like something it quite clearly isn't...The trailer for it had fast paced music, explosions and lots of running away from bad stuff.
That being said...I find it hard to find anything giving the impression of thoughtfulness from a trailer than was just full of explosions and no dialogue. I suppose that's the power a completely unrelated film score can have.
Sure, it's still the fault of the film though if it attempts to portray itself as something that it's not. Before a movie comes out there's nothing else besides trailers to base the decision of whether or not you want to see a movie on. So if the trailer lies, it's still shitty and will hurt the movie, as it did with this, and as it did with The Road, and any other movie that hinted at a tone or a quality in a trailer only to have absolutely no interest in following through.
Originally posted by Kazenji
yeah but they cleary did'nt know about that weakspot at the start of the battle....... 🙄
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Okay, I get you, now. Because they didn't know about the weakspot, shots through that spot don't matter: they would only start counting AFTER they knew that it was a weakspot because the writter/director was farely linear and simple. 😄