Originally posted by MooCowofJusticeWhat? He has no clue about the blade and if he had a clue about his countless defeats he wouldn't be so overconfident unless you are suggesting he's the biggest moron in video games along the lines of a Bowser who loses every single time.
Sure, go ahead. Because I could quite easily say the opposite about that. Because he isn't impressed implies he does recognize the blade, but does not fear it. You know, because he is Ganondorf and a badass, quite confident in his own power.And no, losing to the sword before does not necessarily mean that he would be less confident. The sword itself is a very powerful weapon, but it still has to be wielded efficiently.
Either he's an idiot or ignorant. Pick one. Either way you look at it it's not good for him.
When has Dorf bested a master sword user?
Originally posted by ScreamPasteHe's talking about Link's blade genius.
I should point out Quanchi's wrong, as usual, Ganon's talking about the Sage's sword when he says "an impressive looking blade, but nothing more". He goes on to say he'll use it to plunge the world into darkness or something.You may all continue to rape his arguments.
Originally posted by NemeBroThe Guildmaster is head of the guild do you feel being the head of an entire assemblage of heroes means he's terrible. He wasn't physically anywhere near the hero of the first one so no shame in losing there. He has the guards to fight by his side as he uses his magic. I don't think just anyone can easily throw him down and kill him but the hero of fable one was definitely powerful enough in his prime to do so to a man far outside his prime.
I do not really see the point in replying honestly, you replied to so little of my post and I have clearly bested you, but let's have some more fun shall we?Oh? And you can prove the Guildmaster is a force to be reckoned with? Remember, Maze was just as old, and is physically far superior. The Guildmaster was not even attacking you when you go to kill him, he was only buffing up some random guards who you can easily kill at this point. Though if you recall I did mention him, but he is nowhere as impressive as you are likening him to be.
It is relevant. Your lack of knowledge is not a reason for me to drop a completely valid point. You say that there are so many legends alive at the time, yet literally none but Jack of Blades and the Hero of Oakvale are remembered some 500 or so years later. OH! Another fun fact, wanna know something cool? In Fable 2, the Guild is no more, a bunch of PEASANTS overthrew them and killed the Heroes armed with nothing more than the first rifles ever put into use, flintlocks for instance. There are literally four Heroes alive in the game, including you. Wow. So impressive, that Guild is. Arena champions are tough yes. Who besides Thunder and you are Arena champions that could have fought Jack? Your mother doesn't count, being old and weak. Thunder and you are the only confirmed living Arena champions that can fight Jack.
I have memorised the location of every solitary Silver Key based on vision-memory (I can easily identify the locations where one will be while playing) and know where every unique item is. I have played Fable 2 more times than you have played 1, and I replayed the first one more than any other game. I can even tell you the complete backstory of Albion, which is heavily intertwined with that of Jack of Blades, I am far more knowledgable of it.
1. He has not merely the same powerset, he has everything that gave him that powerset. Quan, you cannot even claim to be as intelligent as a fifth grader until you have learned the concept of inertia.
2. Because most have not shown to be that impressive. For truly impressive Fable feats, one must look at the backstory of the game.
Jack of Blades is one of my favorite characters period. As stated. Fable is one of my favorite series, period. I liked Maze as a character, particularly his backstory, and there are a few characters from the sequel I liked as well. The only character I really dislike is the Guildmaster. Because I don't need to be reminded that my ****ing health is low.
You downplay fable so much I don't acknowledge you as a fan.
The whole world converging on a guild at a point where we don't know who was killed, how impressive they were, etc. is hardly a point. Being remembered 500 years later is awesome and of course everyone isn't remembered so. You also forget Scythe who was remembered. Just throwing knowledge at you and I didn't need to beat it 80 times like you to do so. I am a much faster learned.
In fable one the badass characters again are as follows, Maze, Thunder, Hero, Jack of Blades, Twinblades, and Scythe.
This is a much more impressive cast of characters than Link, Zant, and Ganondorf. I mean Jack is actually competent while Dorf is anything but.
I don't care what you memorize and how many times you go through the game you are a slow learner and you underrate these characters and aren't a true fan.
1.Same powerset doesn't have anything to do with alternate realities it has to do with experiences and memories and you can't grasp because you are either biased or not intelligent.
2. I played the game and realized jack was impressive, his intelligence was impressive, the sword he wielded was impressive, the hero he faced was most impressive, etc. I guess the obvious escapes you yet again.
I don't think so you underrate jack and most of the fable series. You might like going through it over and over again but you don't interpret the characters correctly.
Originally posted by quanchi112
What? He has no clue about the blade and if he had a clue about his countless defeats he wouldn't be so overconfident unless you are suggesting he's the biggest moron in video games along the lines of a Bowser who loses every single time.Either he's an idiot or ignorant. Pick one. Either way you look at it it's not good for him.
When has Dorf bested a master sword user?
Sorry, but you have absolutely nothing to support that. And no, Ganondorf is still capable of being extremely confident. As I said the Master Sword still has to be wielded effectively and having the Master Sword has NEVER guaranteed a victory over him.
He is neither.
Never. And I won't claim he has.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
He is neither.Never. And I won't claim he has.
What does having the master sword have to do with anything/? Link beat him because he's the better man and wielded a weapon better in direct combat here just like Jack will do. In this thread you don't need the master sword and in this game he was defeated without the master sword being present. Jack faced a more powerful hero who was stronger, had more experience, had more options than Link and had him beat multiple times but didn't kill him as he needed him.
Link just bucked Dorf out with a few weeks of experience.
Sorry, but you have absolutely nothing to support that. And no, Ganondorf is still capable of being extremely confident. As I said the Master Sword still has to be wielded effectively and having the Master Sword has NEVER guaranteed a victory over him.
He is neither.
Yes, Dorf always loses to whatever hero he faces no matter how little experience they have with the sword.
Never. And I won't claim he has.
Originally posted by quanchi112
What? He has no clue about the blade and if he had a clue about his countless defeats he wouldn't be so overconfident unless you are suggesting he's the biggest moron in video games along the lines of a Bowser who loses every single time.
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"An impressive looking blade..."
*Holds up Sage's sword*
"But nothing more. Would you hear my desire?"
*Unsheathes Sage's sword*
"To take this foul blade...and use it to blot out the light forever!"
Either he's an idiot or ignorant. Pick one. Either way you look at it it's not good for him.
Why choose when the answer is neither? Wasn't it you has said repeatedly he's against "one inexperienced Link with a few weeks of training"?
Since Ganondorf underestimating Link seems to mean he's an idiot, wouldn't you also be an idiot by that logic? Since you also underestimate Link.
When has Dorf bested a master sword user?
Ocarina of Time.
He's talking about Link's blade genius.
Nope, see above.
Also, I just want to point out:
YouTube video
7:00 to the end. I recommend turning off the volume.
Originally posted by quanchi112Bring up a combat feat from him then. You are so sure of his power you should be able to easily do this simple task, right? I have no doubt at one time the Guildmaster was a powerful Hero, when he was younger, but he showed not a single personal combat feat, all he managed to do was buff some normal guards. You cannot prove he is very strong at all. Weaver has not a feat to his name.
The Guildmaster is head of the guild do you feel being the head of an entire assemblage of heroes means he's terrible. He wasn't physically anywhere near the hero of the first one so no shame in losing there. He has the guards to fight by his side as he uses his magic. I don't think just anyone can easily throw him down and kill him but the hero of fable one was definitely powerful enough in his prime to do so to a man far outside his prime.You downplay fable so much I don't acknowledge you as a fan.
The whole world converging on a guild at a point where we don't know who was killed, how impressive they were, etc. is hardly a point. Being remembered 500 years later is awesome and of course everyone isn't remembered so. You also forget Scythe who was remembered. Just throwing knowledge at you and I didn't need to beat it 80 times like you to do so. I am a much faster learned.
In fable one the badass characters again are as follows, Maze, Thunder, Hero, Jack of Blades, Twinblades, and Scythe.
This is a much more impressive cast of characters than Link, Zant, and Ganondorf. I mean Jack is actually competent while Dorf is anything but.
I don't care what you memorize and how many times you go through the game you are a slow learner and you underrate these characters and aren't a true fan.1.Same powerset doesn't have anything to do with alternate realities it has to do with experiences and memories and you can't grasp because you are either biased or not intelligent.
2. I played the game and realized jack was impressive, his intelligence was impressive, the sword he wielded was impressive, the hero he faced was most impressive, etc. I guess the obvious escapes you yet again.
I don't think so you underrate jack and most of the fable series. You might like going through it over and over again but you don't interpret the characters correctly.
No, I just am knowledgable enough about the series that I do not overrate it like you do, I am well aware how powerful Fable as a series is, and in case you did not notice because you hurt yourself reading my posts (Wear that helmet man), I never at any point said Jack of Blades loses this fight. I am very much a fan of the series, I have had Fable III pre-ordered since I was first able to do so, I don't need an insignifigant person on the internet to "acknowledge" me as being a fan of one of my favorite series, I know I'm a fan.
Lol. "Whole world." Cute. First of all, the attack was only done by people of Albion, a single country, which, due to the name, I assume is the size of England (Albion is an archaic name for England). The destruction of the Guild was perpetrated by a single mob of villagers, who killed most of the Heroes and destroyed the Guild, few Heroes survived. Oh nonononono sir, it is very much a point, since it is said that after the threat of Jack was gone, the Guild was able to grow and thrive beyond what it was before, so it is very much a point. You were also bringing up Jack besting the Guild's heroes as though it were some sort of accomplishment, when in fact other than a select few the Guildsman's individual abilities are largely unknown, although if gameplay says anything, they are rather unimpressive. The Hero and Jack of Blades are massive exceptions to the rule, Thunder was only a fleeting moment of glory, others even less, t'was the point. Actually, I mentioned Scythe as a legend, you just did not realise that because my knowledge of the series is much greater than your own. 🙂 Scythe is William Black, the first Archon, and the man who took down the Court, although it is mentioned that as Scythe he is a decrepit shell of his former self... Which is fairly obvious really, considering the fact that he can barely be considered alive at this point. Only you have proven to be far less informed on the series that I on, your sad, pathetic boasts of intellect convince only yourself, in an attempt to feed your withering ego and convince yourself that you are more than you truly are.
Maze was dead by the time Jack invaded Albion (Though is supremely cool), Thunder was busy fighting minions, Hero fought Jack yeah, Jack is incredibly badass, Twinblade is either dead or being a sissy in his camp all butthurt because you kicked his ass, and Scythe is pretty manly, yeah. Don't really get your point.
Lol. Impressive? Thunder was completely occupied fighting Jack's normal minions and only beat on some ****ing monsters in an Arena, his only claim to fame, none of those monsters rival even the first ****ing boss in some games. Maze has no real feats to his name despite being a pretty cool gai. Twinblade is just a big hunchback with two swords who as I said is either killed by a much less experienced Hero or is being all butthurt in his camp. Scythe used to be very impressive, alas, it is no longer so. The Hero of Oakvale and Jack of Blades are impressive though. Jack is actually competent? Well he is not incompetent, that is true, but let us compare the two eh? Jack at first needed the aid of two others to take over a single country, which literally consisted of only normal humans, Will did not exist yet. Then, when attacking William Black, a young man, he has the Sword of Aeons stolen from him, and Will escapes. Then Will goes on to single-handedly destroy the Court, though Jack lived. It took Jack a millenia just to get the Sword of Aeons back... And then after like five minutes is defeated. He then takes the form of a Dragon and threatens to destroy Albion. He then is not only defeated, he dies. For good. Permanently. He is gone. All thanks to one Hero. Let us compare Ganondorf. Ganondorf was able to, as a human being, not an eldritch horror like Jack, conquer Hyrule, and holds it for seven years. He is then defeated. But does not die, like Jack, he constantly comes back to threaten Hyrule again. Sure, you can claim Ganondorf loses more often than Jack, but that's because Ganondorf never has died and lost for good, like Jack. 🙂 Lol, not a "true fan." I've been with the series since it first came out, am a virtual encyclopedia on the series, and list it as one of my absolute favorites series, yet you have the gall to dismiss me as "not a true fan" after just now playing the games? What a sad, lonely little man you must be.
1. If the timeline split for Superman at a certain point, would his powers in the other timeline automatically be different, for seemingly no reason? No, they would not, not unless there was a reason for it. Ganondorf's powers in TP come from the same source as all the games, they are the same.
2. Oh, dear simple Quanchi, I never actually said Jack or the Hero were not impressive, quite the contrary, they are impressive, the other characters? Not nearly as much.
POINT OUT WHERE I UNDERRATED JACK. I never said Jack loses.
Originally posted by The ScenarioSo you are saying he was describing his own blade which already had previously pierced him ?
YouTube video0:21
"An impressive looking blade..."
*Holds up Sage's sword*
"But nothing more. Would you hear my desire?"
*Unsheathes Sage's sword*
"To take this foul blade...and use it to blot out the light forever!"
Why choose when the answer is neither? Wasn't it you has said repeatedly he's against "one inexperienced Link with a few weeks of training"?
Since Ganondorf underestimating Link seems to mean he's an idiot, wouldn't you also be an idiot by that logic? Since you also underestimate Link.
Ocarina of Time.
Nope, see above.
Also, I just want to point out:
YouTube video7:00 to the end. I recommend turning off the volume.
Ok, I can live with that.
Dorf is an idiot because he underestimated Link yes as he is the hero of time. How was he unaware of this. This just shows how moronic he was because he was beaten the first time due to overconfidence.
Originally posted by NemeBroJust because he was physically overpowered by the badass hero you become means nothing. The hero was bad enough to beat jack and everyone else through years of intense training. I simply said the Guildmaster isn't physically imposing and will obviously try to bridge the gap between himself and his foe at this age.
Bring up a combat feat from him then. You are so sure of his power you should be able to easily do this simple task, right? I have no doubt at one time the Guildmaster was a powerful Hero, when he was younger, but he showed not a single personal combat feat, all he managed to do was buff some normal guards. You cannot prove he is very strong at all. Weaver has not a feat to his name.No, I just am knowledgable enough about the series that I do not overrate it like you do, I am well aware how powerful Fable as a series is, and in case you did not notice because you hurt yourself reading my posts (Wear that helmet man), I never at any point said Jack of Blades loses this fight. I am very much a fan of the series, I have had Fable III pre-ordered since I was first able to do so, I don't need an insignifigant person on the internet to "acknowledge" me as being a fan of one of my favorite series, I know I'm a fan.
Lol. "Whole world." Cute. First of all, the attack was only done by people of Albion, a single country, which, due to the name, I assume is the size of England (Albion is an archaic name for England). The destruction of the Guild was perpetrated by a single mob of villagers, who killed most of the Heroes and destroyed the Guild, few Heroes survived. Oh nonononono sir, it is very much a point, since it is said that after the threat of Jack was gone, the Guild was able to grow and thrive beyond what it was before, so it is very much a point. You were also bringing up Jack besting the Guild's heroes as though it were some sort of accomplishment, when in fact other than a select few the Guildsman's individual abilities are largely unknown, although if gameplay says anything, they are rather unimpressive. The Hero and Jack of Blades are massive exceptions to the rule, Thunder was only a fleeting moment of glory, others even less, t'was the point. Actually, I mentioned Scythe as a legend, you just did not realise that because my knowledge of the series is much greater than your own. 🙂 Scythe is William Black, the first Archon, and the man who took down the Court, although it is mentioned that as Scythe he is a decrepit shell of his former self... Which is fairly obvious really, considering the fact that he can barely be considered alive at this point. Only you have proven to be far less informed on the series that I on, your sad, pathetic boasts of intellect convince only yourself, in an attempt to feed your withering ego and convince yourself that you are more than you truly are.
Maze was dead by the time Jack invaded Albion (Though is supremely cool), Thunder was busy fighting minions, Hero fought Jack yeah, Jack is incredibly badass, Twinblade is either dead or being a sissy in his camp all butthurt because you kicked his ass, and Scythe is pretty manly, yeah. Don't really get your point.
Lol. Impressive? Thunder was completely occupied fighting Jack's normal minions and only beat on some ****ing monsters in an Arena, his only claim to fame, none of those monsters rival even the first ****ing boss in some games. Maze has no real feats to his name despite being a pretty cool gai. Twinblade is just a big hunchback with two swords who as I said is either killed by a much less experienced Hero or is being all butthurt in his camp. Scythe used to be very impressive, alas, it is no longer so. The Hero of Oakvale and Jack of Blades are impressive though. Jack is actually competent? Well he is not incompetent, that is true, but let us compare the two eh? Jack at first needed the aid of two others to take over a single country, which literally consisted of only normal humans, Will did not exist yet. Then, when attacking William Black, a young man, he has the Sword of Aeons stolen from him, and Will escapes. Then Will goes on to single-handedly destroy the Court, though Jack lived. It took Jack a millenia just to get the Sword of Aeons back... And then after like five minutes is defeated. He then takes the form of a Dragon and threatens to destroy Albion. He then is not only defeated, he dies. For good. Permanently. He is gone. All thanks to one Hero. Let us compare Ganondorf. Ganondorf was able to, as a human being, not an eldritch horror like Jack, conquer Hyrule, and holds it for seven years. He is then defeated. But does not die, like Jack, he constantly comes back to threaten Hyrule again. Sure, you can claim Ganondorf loses more often than Jack, but that's because Ganondorf never has died and lost for good, like Jack. 🙂 Lol, not a "true fan." I've been with the series since it first came out, am a virtual encyclopedia on the series, and list it as one of my absolute favorites series, yet you have the gall to dismiss me as "not a true fan" after just now playing the games? What a sad, lonely little man you must be.
1. If the timeline split for Superman at a certain point, would his powers in the other timeline automatically be different, for seemingly no reason? No, they would not, not unless there was a reason for it. Ganondorf's powers in TP come from the same source as all the games, they are the same.
2. Oh, dear simple Quanchi, I never actually said Jack or the Hero were not impressive, quite the contrary, they are impressive, the other characters? Not nearly as much.
POINT OUT WHERE I UNDERRATED JACK. I never said Jack loses.
You can still be a fan but you underrate these characters so I am fine with that. You can do whatever you like and I don't acknowledge you as a true fan like myself.
All we see is albion basically at this point so it is pretty much the entire world. We don't know how powerful the heroes were at the time nor do we know the size of the mob but we do know the guild at the time of fable 1 was very impressive. You have Maze, hero, Guildmaster, scores of guards, Briar Rose, Scythe, and Thunder. Yeah there were uberly impressive compared to the lackluster forces of the twili or hyrule. I mean no one save Link and Midna due to her gear was worth a damn in the entire game unlike fable with scores of powerful heroes not one guy with little training pulling it all off on his own.
I am knowledeable on the series I don't play the game 85 times to actually learn anything. Scythe was powerful enough in the game to keep the summoners at bay and protect the village. I use common sense and apply reason whereas you just memorize the locations of silver keys it isn't helping you out in a debate.
Maze was powerful end of story though he wouldn't even dare to attack Jack without the avo's tear weapon as he believed it was his only chance due to Jack's awesomeness.
So twinbalde is a sissy because he's beaten by the hero ? LOL. He beats everyone so why hold it against Twinblade.....keep underrating them all.
Yes, Thunder is occupied due to Jack's forces being all over the place and yet Thunder still put the ones he faced down. Winning the arena is a huge feat and shows in the game how respected and how honored these heroes are for doing so. I guess playing the game 95 times you missed the fact the arena is a difficult task and how honored everyone is who wins it. I guess in your world it's a cake walk.
Maze is impressive enough to crush your sister and fight the hero pretty effectively but the hero wins due to him being a badass. You can't hold the hero beating him against him can you ?
This Ganondorf didn't conquer hyrule for seven years. That's oot so please quit using feat for him for this dorf which is obviously someone else. No one in hyrule was impressive and Link needs little to hardly any training in tp to best him. Dorf got crushed twice. Jack danced around an entire realm, beat Maze into submission, got the sword and fell to a hero of legend who had 100 times the experience Link from tp had and help from the guild.
Link had minor help while the hero had forces and major champions at his side to aid him against Jack. Comparing Link to the hero is also pure fail as the hero is more experienced, stronger, more powerful, wields more powerful weapons, and overcame greater odds.
You are just a pretender who obsesses over a series he cannot comprehend while playing through the games 100 times to memorize silver key locations and you call me sad. Laughs.
1.If the timeline split for Superman he's an alternate superman. There are plenty of them but the current one is new earth superman and his feats only apply to him. I mean you read comics so why ask me one of the silliest questions ever.
2.You underrate jack's world so by doing so you underrate Jack as well. I won't stand for it.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Just because he was physically overpowered by the badass hero you become means nothing. The hero was bad enough to beat jack and everyone else through years of intense training. I simply said the Guildmaster isn't physically imposing and will obviously try to bridge the gap between himself and his foe at this age.You can still be a fan but you underrate these characters so I am fine with that. You can do whatever you like and I don't acknowledge you as a true fan like myself.
All we see is albion basically at this point so it is pretty much the entire world. We don't know how powerful the heroes were at the time nor do we know the size of the mob but we do know the guild at the time of fable 1 was very impressive. You have Maze, hero, Guildmaster, scores of guards, Briar Rose, Scythe, and Thunder. Yeah there were uberly impressive compared to the lackluster forces of the twili or hyrule. I mean no one save Link and Midna due to her gear was worth a damn in the entire game unlike fable with scores of powerful heroes not one guy with little training pulling it all off on his own.
I am knowledeable on the series I don't play the game 85 times to actually learn anything. Scythe was powerful enough in the game to keep the summoners at bay and protect the village. I use common sense and apply reason whereas you just memorize the locations of silver keys it isn't helping you out in a debate.
Maze was powerful end of story though he wouldn't even dare to attack Jack without the avo's tear weapon as he believed it was his only chance due to Jack's awesomeness.
So twinbalde is a sissy because he's beaten by the hero ? LOL. He beats everyone so why hold it against Twinblade.....keep underrating them all.
Yes, Thunder is occupied due to Jack's forces being all over the place and yet Thunder still put the ones he faced down. Winning the arena is a huge feat and shows in the game how respected and how honored these heroes are for doing so. I guess playing the game 95 times you missed the fact the arena is a difficult task and how honored everyone is who wins it. I guess in your world it's a cake walk.
Maze is impressive enough to crush your sister and fight the hero pretty effectively but the hero wins due to him being a badass. You can't hold the hero beating him against him can you ?
This Ganondorf didn't conquer hyrule for seven years. That's oot so please quit using feat for him for this dorf which is obviously someone else. No one in hyrule was impressive and Link needs little to hardly any training in tp to best him. Dorf got crushed twice. Jack danced around an entire realm, beat Maze into submission, got the sword and fell to a hero of legend who had 100 times the experience Link from tp had and help from the guild.
Link had minor help while the hero had forces and major champions at his side to aid him against Jack. Comparing Link to the hero is also pure fail as the hero is more experienced, stronger, more powerful, wields more powerful weapons, and overcame greater odds.
You are just a pretender who obsesses over a series he cannot comprehend while playing through the games 100 times to memorize silver key locations and you call me sad. Laughs.
1.If the timeline split for Superman he's an alternate superman. There are plenty of them but the current one is new earth superman and his feats only apply to him. I mean you read comics so why ask me one of the silliest questions ever.
2.You underrate jack's world so by doing so you underrate Jack as well. I won't stand for it.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
So you are saying he was describing his own blade which already had previously pierced him ?
Yes, do you not understand that for some reason?
Ok, I can live with that.
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Dorf is an idiot because he underestimated Link yes as he is the hero of time. How was he unaware of this. This just shows how moronic he was because he was beaten the first time due to overconfidence. [/B]
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Ganondorf thought he would win. That is why he fought. Jack of Blades also thought he could beat the hero, didn't he? Confidence is the single trait that is found in nearly all videogame villains. Have you ever come across a boss that thought he would lose to you? Don't go singling Ganondorf out, there.
By your logic, Jack is also an idiot for thinking he could beat the hero. The Elder God, too, must be a complete moron for letting Kain win. Even Kain behaves like an absolute retard in failing to take Raziel seriously. Oh, and Zeus, Ares, and all the gods for losing to Kratos. Hell, throw in Sephiroth and Kefka for good measure.
Originally posted by quanchi112Then prove the Guildmaster was impressive in combat at all at his age or shut the **** up. If you cannot, then concede the point.
Just because he was physically overpowered by the badass hero you become means nothing. The hero was bad enough to beat jack and everyone else through years of intense training. I simply said the Guildmaster isn't physically imposing and will obviously try to bridge the gap between himself and his foe at this age.You can still be a fan but you underrate these characters so I am fine with that. You can do whatever you like and I don't acknowledge you as a true fan like myself.
All we see is albion basically at this point so it is pretty much the entire world. We don't know how powerful the heroes were at the time nor do we know the size of the mob but we do know the guild at the time of fable 1 was very impressive. You have Maze, hero, Guildmaster, scores of guards, Briar Rose, Scythe, and Thunder. Yeah there were uberly impressive compared to the lackluster forces of the twili or hyrule. I mean no one save Link and Midna due to her gear was worth a damn in the entire game unlike fable with scores of powerful heroes not one guy with little training pulling it all off on his own.
I am knowledeable on the series I don't play the game 85 times to actually learn anything. Scythe was powerful enough in the game to keep the summoners at bay and protect the village. I use common sense and apply reason whereas you just memorize the locations of silver keys it isn't helping you out in a debate.
Maze was powerful end of story though he wouldn't even dare to attack Jack without the avo's tear weapon as he believed it was his only chance due to Jack's awesomeness.
So twinbalde is a sissy because he's beaten by the hero ? LOL. He beats everyone so why hold it against Twinblade.....keep underrating them all.
Yes, Thunder is occupied due to Jack's forces being all over the place and yet Thunder still put the ones he faced down. Winning the arena is a huge feat and shows in the game how respected and how honored these heroes are for doing so. I guess playing the game 95 times you missed the fact the arena is a difficult task and how honored everyone is who wins it. I guess in your world it's a cake walk.
Maze is impressive enough to crush your sister and fight the hero pretty effectively but the hero wins due to him being a badass. You can't hold the hero beating him against him can you ?
This Ganondorf didn't conquer hyrule for seven years. That's oot so please quit using feat for him for this dorf which is obviously someone else. No one in hyrule was impressive and Link needs little to hardly any training in tp to best him. Dorf got crushed twice. Jack danced around an entire realm, beat Maze into submission, got the sword and fell to a hero of legend who had 100 times the experience Link from tp had and help from the guild.
Link had minor help while the hero had forces and major champions at his side to aid him against Jack. Comparing Link to the hero is also pure fail as the hero is more experienced, stronger, more powerful, wields more powerful weapons, and overcame greater odds.
You are just a pretender who obsesses over a series he cannot comprehend while playing through the games 100 times to memorize silver key locations and you call me sad. Laughs.
1.If the timeline split for Superman he's an alternate superman. There are plenty of them but the current one is new earth superman and his feats only apply to him. I mean you read comics so why ask me one of the silliest questions ever.
2.You underrate jack's world so by doing so you underrate Jack as well. I won't stand for it.
"Hai gaiz im quan im gonna call t3h gai who is clearly much moar knowledgable and seasoned in t3h series than i am and call him not a true fan cuz he thinkz dey is a weakerz than eye du."
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahano. Albion is not only NOT the entire world, but other places are directly stated to exist. Thunder and Whisper came from a different country for instance. Samarkand is mentioned as being another nation in the world of Fable, and is where Garth hails from. Aurora is a country that will feature in Fable 3, and is apparently Arabic in culture. So no, certainly not the world. The Guild was stated to have grown and become stronger as a whole by the time the villagers destroyed it, stop ignoring this detail just because you have no way to counter it. Guild at the time was very impressive? Impressive compared to... What? Not counting the Hero, Briar Rose, Thunder, Scythe (Barely can be counted as part of the Guild anymore), Maze. Wow. I literally just named EVERY Guild Hero who had any fighting capability at all. ALL FOUR OF THEM. Wanna know what each of them have in common? Ganondorf would effortlessly crush them, like insects. Do you actually think the random Guild trainee or any of the Guards matter at all? They are nobodies, fodder, shit, you could not prove they are even above a Hylian Guard. 😐 Fodder is fodder, who cares if an unknown amount of fodder could not stop Jack? "Little training?" To someone as... lacking as you, this may be hard to grasp, but guess what? All of the experiences and battles Link has before he fights Ganondorf? That IS training. There is a reason Link has never just gone right for Ganondorf at the start of any game, it is because he would die, he needs to build up his power, equipment, and hone his skills before he can fight Ganondorf. Also, I would like to point out that Thunder, Maze, Briar Rose, Scythe, and definately the sissy-ass Guildmaster combined are not equal to one Link. Compared to Link, they are largely unimpressive, going by what they actually do. Not going to argue this by the way, this is a fact, so stfu.
Actually compared to me your knowledge of the series can be likened to a paramecium present in a single drop that consists of my ocean of knowledge. I have proven to be far superior to you in wit, logic, and certainly knowledge of the series, you are the only one who does not see that. I never said Scythe could not fight at all, only that he was a shell of his former self, which he is. Also, you are, uh, aware that Scythe never actually fought Jack during the events of Fable, right?
"Maze was powerful end of story"? Do you know the definition of circular logic quan? Oh who am I kidding, of course you don't! I mean, to even type up these posts is so much work for you, I assume you keep a dictionary handy at all times while online. Circular logic in this context is basically making a claim and asserting it as fact without actually elaborating why it is true. You didn't actually prove Maze was that powerful. Compared to most Heroes? Sure. Compared to Ganondorf? Lolno, not based on feats, that is for sure. Hell, I would even almost be willing to accept Garth's feats as being something Maze could probably do, them both being Will masters, but that is still not on nearly Ganondorf's level. Jack could fubar Maze, sure. Never said Jack was not impressive.
No Twinblade's a sissy because if you let him live he acts all butthurt and hides while sending assassins after you. 😐 What was so impressive about Twinblade? He was just some big slow guy with two swords. And apparently stupid enough to leave his back completely exposed.
WOW!? THUNDER WAS ABLE TO PUT DOWN RANDOM NONDESCRIPT MONSTERZ!? HOLY SHIT DUDE! You mean what Link does while he was still a farmboy? 😐 Link has taken on beings infinitely more impressive than anything Thunder has faced and Thunder himself.
Maze is impressive enough to crush your sister? Two things. First, what did Theresa do in Fable besides apparently kill some random bandits? You know, the shit you've been doing since you just started being a Hero? Second, Jack was there, for all we know it was Jack who took down your sister... Which he could easily do. 😐 He fought effectively against the Hero? In other words, he lost while running away via teleport the whole fight and summoning minions to back him up?
"BAH DUH BIG MEAN AND MUCH SMARTRZ NEMEBRO PROVED ME WRONGZ SO I HAZ TO BE ALL BUTTHURTZ AND SAY TP ONLYZ!" Was comparing the two characters in general, and it was "TP Ganondorf's" plan that actually led to him ruling Hyrule. TP Ganondorf is the Ganondorf from the first part of OoT, when you were still a kid. A single Goron is more impressive than every single guard or random Guild pupil in the game. 😐 Other than the named Heroes and shit, that is Albion's entire military force. But overall, yeah, I guess Albion is stronger militarilty, being a pretty unified military and stuff. It took Jack hundreds to thousands of years to even come close to getting the Sword of Aeons, and he then lost it. 😐 "Hero of Legend?" Let us compare the two then, strictly in terms of the Legendary status accompanying them. The Hero of Oakvale was a descendant of the first Archon which gave him impressive powers of Will, Link is basically a failsafe provided by the Gods of the world to stop Ganondorf. Gods>>>First Archon. Link also did everything he did only with the aid of Midna, the Hero needed aid from the entire Guild.
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"Oh look gaiz im quan i cant rrly debate verry well so i has to make random bullshit claimz with no proofz behindz them." Lol. Forces and major champions. None of whom fought Jack directly, except for the nobodies Jack slaughtered at the Guild. So what is your point? Why are you trying to derail the thread by talking about irrelevant bullshit that has no basis on who wins this thread? Also, I'd like you to prove those claims on the Hero. Gonna be kind of hard to, since, you know, the attributes of your Hero are CHOSEN BY YOU. More experienced? Technically, I guess, though with the exception of Jack, Link faces far superior threats. Stronger? Lolno. Tossing Gorons, especially Dangoro, is a better quantifiable strength feat than anything the Hero has ever done, his only strength feat being pulling The Harbinger from the stone, a strength feat you cannot quantify at all. Try again.
Lol. "Pretender." Nah mawn, yer duh one who is nawt t3h true fan dawg.
1. If Current Superman in particular had a timeline split, he would not become the Amazing Choconion Man with the ability to create onions and chocolate. He would still be Superman powerset-wise, unless something explicitly changed that. But this is very irrelevant to the topic I am currently thrashing you on, so I will drop it.
2. "I won't stand for it"? Whoa now man, do you have some sort of weird crush on Jack of Blades? That's kind of weird man. Also, everyone take note on how despite Quan's best (Read: Very bad) efforts of hyping Jack up, the best feats from Jack still came from me in this thread. Wow, I underrate him sooooooooooooooo much huh? 😐