Face Huggers VS Death Star

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Remember in the first Star Wars when Luke and Han wore stormtrooper armor and infiltrated the detention cell with Chewie as a phony prisoner? Well, the first thing they did was shoot the security cameras.

Not arguing that there isn't cameras, as you see monitors and whatnot. Just not the 100% of the DS is covered/tracked, as it isn't.

Luke and crew escape using the air ducts/garbage chutes, these would be ideal for Xenomorphs to get around in, as we're seen just this in the Alien films. I'd imagine a ship like the DS would have miles and miles of ducting and whatnot.

Also, as seen in Alien Resurrection, even the drone Xenos have intelligence and deductive reasoning, combined with a keen predatory instinct. Few weeks, DS could be overrun.

facepalm

Considering that in every movie except for the first one, the Xenos get annihilated in ways that don't require intelligence, I foresee them all taking the fall.

Add on the fact that.....wait for it.......Stormtroopers are NOT as inept as people think.

Obi Wan: "Only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise." That, and the battle on the Tantive IV.

The only times the Stormtroopers are inept are when Han, Luke and Leia are involved.

Don't be a jack-ass.

If it was an open battle-field, I'd say the Troopers, easy, but it's the DS and there's plenty of places to hide and attack from, which the Xenomorphs excel at, the sneak attack. Xenos slowing increasing their numbers, is possible in this setting.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Considering that in every movie except for the first one, the Xenos get annihilated in ways that don't require intelligence, I foresee them all taking the fall.

Aliens, they had to escape and blow the shit out of an entire base to win.

Alien 3, they had to lay a trap, which had only one chance of working.

Resurrection, they had to escape onto a smaller ship and crash/explode the main.

Sounds like more thinking than just shooting a gun.

Originally posted by Robtard
Don't be a jack-ass.

If it was an open battle-field, I'd say the Troopers, easy, but it's the DS and there's plenty of places to hide and attack from, which the Xenomorphs excel at, the sneak attack. Xenos slowing increasing their numbers, is possible in this setting.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And how do they take Vader? Force push, lightsaber, precog, he'll be able to fight off the facehuggers while the stormtroopers kill the xenos. Not a drop of acid blood spilt.

When the first few see that they can't beat him, they'll wait till their numbers grow.

Also, they'll be all over the DS, its not like they all go for Vader straight away. Chances of them running into one particular person isn't high until they've over run the DS.

There are also many other susceptible targets other than Storm Troopers.

Also, why do you keep bringing up Obi Wan's comment about Storm Troopers? We've all seen for ourselves they are utterly incompetent.

Originally posted by the ninjak
5 Alien face huggers have arrived on the Death Star on a random delivery of supplies. Can they find suitable prey and create a Queen in the depths of its disposal units plus some drones and slowly infest the entire Death Star?
Only Vader is on board when it comes to Sith.

Yes, easily. This is what the Xenomorphs are designed for.

Originally posted by Placidity
When the first few see that they can't beat him, they'll wait till their numbers grow.

Also, they'll be all over the DS, its not like they all go for Vader straight away. Chances of them running into one particular person isn't high until they've over run the DS.

There are also many other susceptible targets other than Storm Troopers.

Also, why do you keep bringing up Obi Wan's comment about Storm Troopers? We've all seen for ourselves they are utterly incompetent.

One thing you guys are forgetting: In all the movies with Xenos, a big advantage of the Xenos is their acid blood (Drake, Hicks, Vasquez, the Marine holding the ammo, the rasta pirate, countless others being sprayed with it as bullets hit the Xenos), and their prey being unarmed (The prison planet) and/or inexperienced (Ripleys crew in the original movie.) Blasters and Lightsabers cauterize the wound, there will be no acid spilled, AND the stormtroopers are fearless killing machines when Han, Leia and Luke are not around. Again, look at the Tantive IV battle, the stormtroopers were filing one by one through the hull breech, oblivious to their fallen comrades. There were easily hundreds of thousands of stormtroopers on the Death star, there's no way the Xenos kill them all. Blasters, thermal detonators, cannons and shit? Please.

Observe:

YouTube video

Unless Han, Luke or Leia are in the fight, Stormtroopers are badass killing machines.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I bring up Obi Wan's comment because the only time the stormtroopers are seen as being incompetent is when Han, Luke and/or Leia are fighting them. His comment, plus the opening battle from ANH, shows how badass Stormtroopers are. Why are they feared so if they are just a buncha idiots?

So why are they idiots when those few people are around? Explanations external to the story isn't going to go well. Even George Lucas had to make up an explanation for why they were idiots.

The Storm Troopers also got beaten by midgets with rocks and arrows. Explain that one.

Also most of the battles involve the people you mentioned, so it makes sense to go with their average/majority of showings, not ones handpicked by you because its convenient.

This was plucked from SW Section. Even ol George knows they suck.

Originally posted by VengeanceGOD
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"However, there is also an in-universe explanation, provided by none other than George Lucas himself. During the productions of Episode III, Lucas told crewmembers that the stormtroopers seen in Episode IV are made from multiple sources. That is, they're not all Jango clones. By that time in the saga, other clone hosts have been selected.

Lucas intimated that the selection proces has become more political than strategic in some cases - a highly placed officer's cousin might be selected over a more capable specimen, for example. The politicization results in less-than-ideal candidates, which could explain some of the embarrasing marksmanship witnessed in the original trilogy."

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

One thing you guys are forgetting: In all the movies with Xenos, a big advantage of the Xenos is their acid blood (Drake, Hicks, Vasquez, the Marine holding the ammo, the rasta pirate, countless others being sprayed with it as bullets hit the Xenos), and their prey being unarmed (The prison planet) and/or inexperienced (Ripleys crew in the original movie.) Blasters and Lightsabers cauterize the wound, there will be no acid spilled...

You don't know that Blasters cauterize wounds. A blaster's heat is in no way comparable to a lightsaber's. If anything they are highly unlikely able to close the whole wound without massive blood splatter. Just watch AvP, Aliens exploded upon impact by the high heat plasma cannon.

Originally posted by Placidity
So why are they idiots when those few people are around? Explanations external to the story isn't going to go well. Even George Lucas had to make up an explanation for why they were idiots.

The Storm Troopers also got beaten by midgets with rocks and arrows. Explain that one.

Also most of the battles involve the people you mentioned, so it makes sense to go with their average/majority of showings, not ones handpicked by you because its convenient.

This was plucked from SW Section. Even ol George knows they suck.

Tell me one scene in the entire SW saga where stormtroopers are shown as being incompetent where Han, Luke and/or Leia are not around. They were around on Endor, as well as several Rebe troops. The Ewoks did not beat them alone.

I am going with the Stormtroopers high end feats here. Namely the Tantive IV battle.

Is anyone ever shown bleeding from a blaster wound?

You don't know that Blasters cauterize wounds. A blaster's heat is in no way comparable to a lightsaber's. If anything they are highly unlikely able to close the whole wound without massive blood splatter. Just watch AvP, Aliens exploded upon impact by the high heat plasma cannon. [/B][/QUOTE]

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

Tell me one scene in the entire SW saga where stormtroopers are shown as being incompetent where Han, Luke and/or Leia are not around. They were around on Endor, as well as several Rebe troops. The Ewoks did not beat them alone.

Again, that's not an explanation. It's an observation with no reference to causation. Until you provide one (and you can't really), theres no case to be made here.

Wait, I have a good point:

Vader can sense danger like it ain't no thang.

Technically, that was an Anakin feat, but that ability should still be there.

Vader would easily detect where the danger was and take the "turbolift" to that location, wtf pwn the facehugging newbz, and then force choke the commander that let them on the DeathStar.

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Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Vader kills 'em then proceeds to watch all three twilight movies in order 😄 😆 😆 😆

Didn't see this post. That's just great. 😆 (It's cause Vader is an emo, right?)

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Yes, easily. This is what the Xenomorphs are designed for.

👆

Originally posted by dadudemon
Wait, I have a good point:

Vader can sense danger like it ain't no thang.

Technically, that was an Anakin feat, but that ability should still be there.

Vader would easily detect where the danger was and take the "turbolift" to that location, wtf pwn the facehugging newbz, and then force choke the commander that let them on the DeathStar.

Anakin sensed the danger to Padme from the centipedes because he was specifically 'watching' that room. So until he becomes aware of the threat, there's no reason for him to sense the Xenos, unless one's about to attack him.

It's really a matter if they can build up their forces before he becomes aware, even then, it will be hard to get them out of the air-shafts and whatnot, as the Xeno can easily navigate them, Troopers can't.

Originally posted by Robtard
Anakin sensed the danger to Padme from the centipedes because he was specifically 'watching' that room.

In the middle of an argument, for sure. 🙂

Originally posted by Robtard
So until he becomes aware of the threat, there's no reason for him to sense the Xenos, unless one's about to attack him.

A Vader, meditating, in his hyperbaric chamber, is a much more focused and mature than Anakin. He'd notice, quite quickly.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's really a matter if they can build up their forces before he becomes aware, even then, it will be hard to get them out of the air-shafts and whatnot, as the Xeno can easily navigate them, Troopers can't.

Since Vader can easily sniff them all out, as soon as they arrive, very quickly, this is over in mere minutes. If someone gets facehugged, Vader destroys the body with extreme prejudice.

Originally posted by Robtard
Aliens, they had to escape and blow the shit out of an entire base to win.

Alien 3, they had to lay a trap, which had only one chance of working.

Resurrection, they had to escape onto a smaller ship and crash/explode the main.

Sounds like more thinking than just shooting a gun.

As far as Aliens, specifically, the Marines lost the first fight in the reactor room because they had no ammo in their guns, were panicking, and didn't want to blow up the reactor. Even then, with all those factors, they killed tons of aliens before retreating. Two auto-turrets took down multiple dozens of aliens, and in the second fight the remaining marines took down a bunch before being overwhelmed due to not having enough ammo and manpower. Ratio wise, every marine took down several aliens before going down. On a battle station with almost a million troops on it, it's only a matter of time until the Empire wins through sheer attrition.

Besides, where's the proof an alien can even get through a trooper's armor? In the movies, the only things that have ever pierced a stormtroopers armor have been a lightsaber and blaster bolts. An alien can maybe ko one of them through sheer concussive force ala Ewoks with rocks. Not sure they could pierce through the armor though. In Resurrection, a glass wall > alien piercing power.

Really, this is all just meandering anyway, though. Vader can solo.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
As far as Aliens, specifically, the Marines lost the first fight in the reactor room because they had no ammo in their guns, were panicking, and didn't want to blow up the reactor. Even then, with all those factors, they killed tons of aliens before retreating. Two auto-turrets took down multiple dozens of aliens, and in the second fight the remaining marines took down a bunch before being overwhelmed due to not having enough ammo and manpower. Ratio wise, every marine took down several aliens before going down. On a battle station with [b]almost a million troops on it, it's only a matter of time until the Empire wins through sheer attrition.

Besides, where's the proof an alien can even get through a trooper's armor? In the movies, the only things that have ever pierced a stormtroopers armor have been a lightsaber and blaster bolts. An alien can maybe ko one of them through sheer concussive force ala Ewoks with rocks. Not sure they could pierce through the armor though. In Resurrection, a glass wall > alien piercing power.

Really, this is all just meandering anyway, though. Vader can solo. [/B]

Xenomorphs aren't animal stupid, they're not going to swarm a squad of Troopers if there's only 3-4 of them. Like I said, given time, they could overrun the place, as the element of surprise is on their side battleground favors their tactics of sneak attacking.
Also, where are we getting these "almost million Strom Troopers" from?

If a stone arrow fired from a bow with an impossibly short recoil can get through ST armor, a Xenomorph's mouth and tail can. Also of note, Palpatine said his "finest troops" where down on Endor, so.

He could take out a whole lot, but a mass swarm, coming from multiple angles, especially with the acid blood flying and his slow rate of movement, he'd likely fall, if the Xeno could build their numbers fast enough.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Wait, I have a good point:

Vader can sense danger like it ain't no thang.

Technically, that was an Anakin feat, but that ability should still be there.

Vader would easily detect where the danger was and take the "turbolift" to that location, wtf pwn the facehugging newbz, and then force choke the commander that let them on the DeathStar.

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Didn't see this post. That's just great. 😆 (It's cause Vader is an emo, right?)

yea