Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Not quite sure where this "most" stuff comes from.
That comment was very funny!
Yeah dude, most SF fans don't care too much for Tekken. You should try looking at places like SRK, Eventhubs and Capcom's official site. More folks are like, phuck this shit. Best to just leave this issue alone, unless your ready for a history lesson and have ass load of knowledge dropped on you. You underestimate level a "pissosity" Capcom fans are at. I mean, things could change but man, no body wants a 4th VS game. Doesn't matter if it's Capcom VS God. If it aint CVS3, motha phuckaz say phuck it. Lol, CVS3 fans are phuckin' heated.
Most people are like "Yeah, DS4 or CVS3, or CFE2!" Then you see Namco folks handing out copies of Tekken 6 to SF fans. And it's like, "Oh phuck no!, WTF is this?!!!"
You just can't grasp the magnitude of this situation.
Originally posted by No End N Site
This is very funny! Yeah dude, most SF fans don't care too much for Tekken. You should try looking at places like SRK, Eventhubs and Capcom's official site. More folks are like, phuck this shit. Best to just leave this issue alone, unless your ready for a history lesson and have ass load of knowledge dropped on you. You underestimate level a "pissosity" Capcom fans are at. I mean, things could change but man, no body wants a 4th VS game. Doesn't matter if it's Capcom VS God. If it aint CVS3, motha phuckaz say phuck it. Lol, CVS3 fans are phuckin' heated.You just can't grasp the magnitude of this situation.
So you think the majority of Capcom fans hang around on internet forums? Really? SRK, Eventhubs, and Capcom's official site have over 3 million members in all?
No. You know why game companies don't go out of their way to listen to every little complaint made by members on their official sites? Because the fans who hang out on internet forums don't make up "most" of the fanbase. At all. They may be the "loudest" or the most visible, but they don't make the majority. If all you're going to do is ad hominem and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about, instead of actually addressing what I'm saying, then we're done.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
So you think the majority of Capcom fans hang around on internet forums? Really? SRK, Eventhubs, and Capcom's official site have over 3 million members in all?No.
No. You know why game companies don't go out of their way to listen to every little complaint made by members on their official sites? Because the fans who hang out on internet forums don't make up "most" of the fanbase. At all. They may be the "loudest" or the most visible, but they don't make the majority. If all you're going to do is ad hominem and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about, instead of actually addressing what I'm saying, then we're done.
The problem is, the things you are saying are mostly not true. Those people at those sites are the dudes and chix who make sure SF games last years and are played at tournaments every year. That shit matters more than anything else. And out of those 3 million people, at least 2 million are on those sites or visit them regularly, trust me. All of the fighters Capcom has made this gen, most of the shit in those games are due to fan demand. It's true that more than just the hardcore buy the games, but if they aint on board, 'shit is gonna flop. Those guys "who hang out on internet forums" have the largest, by far, influence on the sucess of the game. That may not be true for all those other genres but that shit is clear as day for fighters.
Originally posted by No End N Site
[B]Those people at those sites are the dudes and chix who make sure SF games last years and are played at tournaments every year. That shit matters more than anything else.
No it doesn't. Sales matter more than anything else, at least to Capcom.
And out of those 3 million people, 2 million are on those sites or visit them regularly, trust me.
So you're seriously telling me that 2 million people go online and visit street fighter internet forums, that's quite a claim. Prove it, lol.
Originally posted by Zack FairQFT
lol@capcom declaring bakruptcy after this gameDoubt anything like that is going to happen. I actually think the game is going to sell quite a lot.
If Capcom goes bakrupt it would be more because of its recent flood of fighting games...and even then Capcom has other franchises that are still strong.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
No it doesn't. Sales matter more than anything else, at least to Capcom.So you're seriously telling me that 2 million people go online and visit street fighter internet forums, that's quite a claim. Prove it, lol.
Fans influence sales. Fans aint diggin' it, shit wont sell. Look at SFIII, perfect example. I don't need to poll 3 million people to know that if motha phuckaz on the sites aint feelin' the rest of the community aint feelin' it. Common sense.
Originally posted by NemeBro
What do you think more people would buy?Another vs. game that no one asked for, or the revival of a classic series which most fans want?
Exactly. Motha phuckaz tired of VS games.
The majority of fan's not diggin it influences sales. The opinion of the members of internet sites do not represent the majority of the fanbase's opinion. This is why I asked you to provide proof that the majority of the people who buy Capcom's fighting games are also members of your sites. How is it "common sense" that if the peple on the sites dont like it most of the people who buythe games won't like it. Tell that to the Call of Duty fanbase, where the entire Infinity Ward forum was in a massive uproar of anger because IW was shafting the players by adding dumb features to the game and taking away old good ones. The online fanbase was so mad that they boycotted the game. Those fans who had been fans since day 1, like you, were saying EXACTLY the same thing you're saying now, word for word. Guess what? MW2 is one of the highest selling games of all time. Hence, your theory that "if the fans on the internet don't like it most people won't" is crap.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
The majority of fan's not diggin it influences sales. The opinion of the members of internet sites do not represent the majority of the fanbase's opinion.
OMG, dude ALL evidence points to the opposite of this.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
This is why I asked you to provide proof that the majority of the people who buy Capcom's fighting games are also members of your sites.
They aint my sites and the fact that the fans on fighting game sites are indeed general consensus is pretty much fact. I don't really know how to prove that with you actually not having a clue that it is indeed almost a fact. It's like, you have to be there to know.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
The majority of fan's not diggin it influences sales. The opinion of the members of internet sites do not represent the majority of the fanbase's opinion. This is why I asked you to provide proof that the majority of the people who buy Capcom's fighting games are also members of your sites. How is it "common sense" that if the peple on the sites dont like it most of the people who buythe games won't like it. Tell that to the Call of Duty fanbase, where the entire Infinity Ward forum was in a massive uproar of anger because IW was shafting the players by adding dumb features to the game and taking away old good ones. The online fanbase was so mad that they boycotted the game. Those fans who had been fans since day 1, like you, were saying EXACTLY the same thing you're saying now, word for word. Guess what? MW2 is one of the highest selling games of all time. Hence, your theory that "if the fans on the internet don't like it most people won't" is crap.
And your making a mistake comparing a fighting game fanbase to others. 2 totally different animals. You fail if you can't find a fighting game example to prove your point. Not trying to be an ass, but yeah.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I don't care even a little bit that you think think it's fact. Prove it's a fact. This is the third time I'm asking you to do so. If you can't, then stop wasting both of our time by telling me it's "just a fact", because every time you do do, I'm just going to tell you to prove it.
What the hell do you want me to show you? How the hell can I prove that these sites show a general consencus? Your askin' me to prove somethin' that can't be proven. That's like me sayin' that the sun will burn you alive you touch it and you ask me to prove it by flyin' there and jumpin' in.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I don't care even a little bit that you think think it's fact. Prove it's a fact. This is the third time I'm asking you to do so. If you can't, then stop wasting both of our time by telling me it's "just a fact", because every time you do do, I'm just going to tell you to prove it.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Alright then lol. I still love you.
Don't lie to me, I don't even know you.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
You are blowing it out of proportion noend.I for 1 was against it when it was just a rumor, but what do you know. Its real and its even playable.
Nah, dude. I for one never thought the game wasn't gonna look good, wasn't gonna be fun, or that it was gonna suck. Never seen the game before to know. One thing I did know was that it was 4th VS game in like 20 months for Capcom. This happened last time. Too many SF and VS games in a single period, it was met with disaster. People don't wanna play another VS game so soon, this was my point, especially if it aint CVS3. I'm in a decent minority when I say, I don't wanna play no goddamn CVS3 anytime soon, either. I mean damn, Marvel VS Capcom 3 is commin' out next year and damn, we had TVC last year and a redo of MVC2 the year before that. They gotta slow down, man.
Now, if this game came out in 2 or 3 years, that's cool, but what the hell, you can already play it?
And that's the only problem I have and I'm damn glad they made Kaz Ryu's rival and not Jin, that's WTF I'm talking about. The game looks hot. But damn, you have more games on the market in this 1 genre than all your major fighting game rivals combined and ALL of them are VS and SF games. All of your fans aint SF and VS maniacs. I know damn well I'm ready for something else.