Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
That's not what I said.And using a power for the first time =/= mind raping three billion Daxamites
and you clearly missed the point. Just because current DS didn't do it doesn't mean he can't. As noted GDS was weaker then current.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You do realize you're actually arguing his point right?
Not really, but then again you wish to ignore what the comics say.
Originally posted by -K-M-
and you clearly missed the point. Just because current DS didn't do it doesn't mean he can't. As noted GDS was weaker then current.Not really, but then again you wish to ignore what the comics say.
So there is no such thing as hyperbole and everything stated in a comic is fact and never just for plot and dramatics?
Originally posted by Prep-Man
About GDS Darkseid being weaker than current. Would that be in Pre-Crisis standards? Because I doubt current Darkseid (not FC DS) can beat GDS Darkseid. GDS DS was going toe to toe with Pre-Crisis Daxamites and Kryptonians.
Darkseid wasn't affected by the Crisis, and if people actually read DS they would know practically all his defeats were retconned to be either an avatar or Desaad. Current DS is Final Crisis DS, and the true DS.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So there is no such thing as hyperbole and everything stated in a comic is fact and never just for plot and dramatics?
How on earth was that hyperbole? Seriously endulge me how do you figure that was hyerbole? as the whole point of the story was him stealing peoples powers to regain his power as he said he lost not once but multiple times.
Originally posted by -K-M-Which means nothing as he's never done it.
and you clearly missed the point. Just because current DS didn't do it doesn't mean he can't. As noted GDS was weaker then current.
If Darkseid truly has no TP to speak of, then that's a little different than simply growing, or using a new power.
Like I said using a new power doesn't mean he'll jump right into a really ****ing high use of said power.
Originally posted by -K-M-
How on earth was that hyperbole? Seriously endulge me how do you figure that was hyerbole? as the whole point of the story was him stealing peoples powers to regain his power as he said he lost not once but multiple times.
not what I asked you. You stated that it was stated by him and in a comic thus a fact. You then further stated that I ignore things stated in comics. So then I posed a query to you asking if you taking everything spoken by everyone in a comic to be a fact? Still waiting for that answer.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Which means nothing as he's never done it.If Darkseid truly has no TP to speak of, then that's a little different than simply growing, or using a new power.
Like I said using a new power doesn't mean he'll jump right into a really ****ing high use of said power.
Ummm...current DS has demonstrated tp before 😬
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
not what I asked you. You stated that it was stated by him and in a comic thus a fact. You then further stated that I ignore things stated in comics. So then I posed a query to you asking if you taking everything spoken by everyone in a comic to be a fact? Still waiting for that answer.
What's the question?
Originally posted by -K-M-You just said he didn't when I said he had no TP near that level.
Ummm...current DS has demonstrated tp before 😬
Oddly enough, my first post in this thread answers a lot...
And if you didn't state that, then well, you misunderstood what I said, like I said in my second post.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
I'm not sure how that makes sense then.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Which means nothing as he's never done it.If Darkseid truly has no TP to speak of, then that's a little different than simply growing, or using a new power.
Like I said using a new power doesn't mean he'll jump right into a really ****ing high use of said power.
Hence my reply saying he actually DOES have tp currently.
Originally posted by -K-M-And here's what I was replying to:
Hence my reply saying he actually DOES have tp currently.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Darkseid has no TP feats near the GDS saga level.
Originally posted by -K-M-
He's never used it does that mean he doesn't have it? Even during Countdown when DS grew to the size of the building for the first time ever no one was suprized.
However, if talking about what you're saying now, then well, ya, that's exactly what it means. He has no feats near the level. We can't attribute these feats to him just because he's never tried, or hasn't done so.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
And here's what I was replying to:Which indicates that you're talking about TP as a whole. The whole stance indicates this in your post.
However, if talking about what you're saying now, then well, ya, that's exactly what it means. He has no feats near the level. We can't attribute these feats to him just because he's never tried, or hasn't done so.
*slaps forehead* and my other comments related to this. Just because he never did it in the current timeline doesn't mean he couldn't especially when even right up to his death we were seeing powers he has never demonstrated before.
Except the comment that GDS DS said he was weaker then current, we go by that.
Originally posted by -K-M-They didn't until I actually spelled out the message you were portraying. This whole 'powers' stance even backs it up that you misunderstood what I said (since new powers would go hand in hand with giving him TP if he did indeed not have it before).
*slaps forehead* and my other comments related to this. Just because he never did it in the current timeline doesn't mean he couldn't especially when even right up to his death we were seeing powers he has never demonstrated before.Accept the comment that GDS DS said he was weaker then current, we go by that.
I do accept that he said that. I don't accept giving this feat to normal Darkseid especially when his TP feats are nowhere near GDS'.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
They didn't until I actually spelled out the message you were portraying. This whole 'powers' stance even backs it up that you misunderstood what I said.
New powers again is irrelevant. You could develop the powers to rape dogs with a thought; it doesn't mean you're going to mind rape 3 billion PC Daxamites.I do accept that he said that. I don't accept giving this feat to normal Darkseid especially when his TP feats are nowhere near GDS'.
*facepalm* Wow simply wow, you still don't get it.
and you have no proof to say he couldn't, as right up until Final Crisis we never even saw the true Darkseid.
Originally posted by -K-M-
Darkseid wasn't affected by the Crisis, and if people actually read DS they would know practically all his defeats were retconned to be either an avatar or Desaad. Current DS is Final Crisis DS, and the true DS.
But darkseid has been depowered 3 times on panel
If we go by the statements of gds that he was weaker than now then upon inception he would hae had to have been BEASTLY 😎