hybridization

Started by Shakyamunison3 pages
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
We are very diverse.

But not genetically.

Originally posted by jaden101
The problem with cross breeding is it can only occur, like I said above, if the number of chromosomes in each species is the same and so can pair up. If they can't then the embryo isn't viable and so results in natural termination.
so all it takes is human with the same number of chromosomes like lets say some one with a type of down syndrome where one chromosome might be missing or added, right?

Originally posted by King Castle
so all it takes is human with the same number of chromosomes like lets say some one with a type of down syndrome where one chromosome might be missing or added, right?

Down's adds a second 21st chromosome and there aren't any animals that have an odd number of chromosomes to mate those people with. Not to mention that there are all sorts of other factors involved, which we would need a geneticist to get any sort of handle on.

jaden mentioned a chimera cant the same method to make one not be used for a human and a chimp or any other ape?

forced fusing.

Originally posted by King Castle
jaden mentioned a chimera cant the same method to make one not be used for a human and a chimp or any other ape?

forced fusing.

Only if humans and chimps happened to have exactly the right similarities.

u guys thing that if we did a breeding program like we do on animals that we can get ppl with Atavism traits and vestigial organs to regress into a more animalistic appearance and even genetic traits?

i mean we bree out certain traits and breed in others..

i believe its bn done to regress certain animals to appear more similar to other extinct animals in which they originated.

link?

here is an article
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1961918,00.html

there was a show where i saw a small looking animals that was supposedly the ancestor of the modern camel.. it look like a llama of some kind but smaller they said that they had bred it into existence through selective breeding and hybridization and it was the closes looking thing that had the same features of the camels ancestors.

Originally posted by King Castle
so all it takes is human with the same number of chromosomes like lets say some one with a type of down syndrome where one chromosome might be missing or added, right?

You would need an ape/monkey species with the same number of pairs of chromosomes (although there are examples when the numbers of chromosomes don't match but it's extremely rare)

It's been quite a while since I done anything on genetics of this sort though (nearly 10 years) so i'm not exactly up to speed on it.

jaden mentioned a chimera cant the same method to make one not be used for a human and a chimp or any other ape?

Probably but then technically it wouldn't be a hybrid. With chimerism the DNA of each parent species is expressed separately and randomly throughout the body so a chimera of a human and an ape could result in a perfectly normal looking human face with chimp ears. ( an extreme example).

Most likely what you'd get is patchy body hair when areas of the body are expressing normal human hair and other patches are expressing monkey hair. Similar to what you see in mouse chimeras.

a zeedonk was recently born at an animal preserve the parents mated naturally not forced nor goated.. just saw it on the news the owner is pleasantly surprised.
part donkey and zeebra

this what it looks like but is not the one that was recently born

Originally posted by King Castle
i believe its bn done to regress certain animals to appear more similar to other extinct animals in which they originated.
I remember a few years ago they wanted to this with mammoth DNA and elephants to step by step "recreate" a mammoth.

leapon

mix between a lion and a leopard

That looks like terrible photomanipulation.

it does i just wanted to use it knowing some one would say that.. plus its head is very unproportionate to its body anyways makes it look not real.

http://www.hemmy.net/2006/06/19/top-10-hybrid-animals/

I stand corrected.

batwoman = mix between a wombat and a man

Re: hybridization

Originally posted by King Castle
how many animals do we know has bn hybridized?

and how long will it be b4 i get my monkey man or ape man or the possibility of such ?

are there no human genetic make up close enough to match it to an ape.

i know chromosomes need to line up are their no chromosomal damage where a human or an ape would have the same amount of chromosomes ?

in mutation in a human or an ape?

also what makes a new species if it was born from a certain known animal?

how much of a difference does one need to have to be considered different from its original parents or species?

A lot

Probably never

We have a different number of chromossomes than the other extant apes, so they cant pair up properly.

What?

Reproductive isolation from the parent species is what defines the biological concept of species. It's the most popular one, but its aplication outside vertebrate animals is extremelly limited and there are many other definitions. Strictly speaking, what a species is is a matter of perception and convention. Species are also usually defined and identified at the level populations, not individuals.

Depends on the group.

Originally posted by King Castle
u guys thing that if we did a breeding program like we do on animals that we can get ppl with Atavism traits and vestigial organs to regress into a more animalistic appearance and even genetic traits?

i mean we bree out certain traits and breed in others..

i believe its bn done to regress certain animals to appear more similar to other extinct animals in which they originated.

They wouldn't be regressing. Depends on how the genes determining those characteristics operate. Since we are animals I'd say we look animalistic enough.

bn thinking grab ppl's dna with atavism traits and just keep impregnating embryos and then after a few weeks or months grab the dna and do it again over and over and over till till we get the right trait mix in the following generations.

Originally posted by King Castle
bn thinking grab ppl's dna with atavism traits and just keep impregnating embryos and then after a few weeks or months grab the dna and do it again over and over and over till till we get the right trait mix in the following generations.

If you don't mind me asking, what is it that you're hoping to create exactly?