Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine has got a full 12 inches ( 😎 ) of penetration from his claws on Thing, Hulk, Red Hulk, Wrecker, Absorbingman and Namor, in one shot, he even carvered up Count Naferia... but I'm sure Aquaman will be able to resist though, he has the power of the sea on his side!!!
It's my theory that Count Nefaria had been depowered for that encounter. Wasn't he pure ionic energy in his last appearance? Whatever, it's Bendis. Cage floored him with a punch.
Originally posted by namorsubbyNo.. he wasn't. He was already getting up.. seriously, do you have any idea how many times Wolverine's been knocked down only to get up and fight the rest of the fight.. to win.. Look at his fight with Hulk in Wolverine 145 and take off your asshat.
Wolverine wasn't shown "all the way up"(I'll humor you) until Namor had already left and finished a whole conversation. At the end of my first statement, I said Logan was "effectively incapacitated", at the very least for several moments. Do you not agree?If you say no, then I'll know to end it right here.
Originally posted by jinzin
No.. he wasn't. He was already getting up.. seriously, do you have any idea how many times Wolverine's been knocked down only to get up and fight the rest of the fight.. to win.. Look at his fight with Hulk in Wolverine 145 and take off your asshat.
That's not how fights work! 1f you get knocked down, you lose! Haven't you ever watched boxing or mma???? Huh idiot? dur
Originally posted by jinzin
lol. Then I apologize sir.To be honest. I think TP is the only thing Aquaman has going for him in a fight with Wolverine. Some people think it will be effective some don't and it's conjecture either way.
I think there's two distinct likelihoods here.
1 tp works and Aquaman owns Logan
2 it doesn't work and Logan cuts Aquaman up.There's arguments made for what his water hand can do, so given that asset he'd probably take the majority..
Without it in a straight fight he won't.
lol no need
anyways im kinda fighting with my girl so im out for tonight happy debating!
Originally posted by jinzin
No.. he wasn't. He was already getting up.. seriously, do you have any idea how many times Wolverine's been knocked down only to get up and fight the rest of the fight.. to win.. Look at his fight with Hulk in Wolverine 145 and take off your asshat.
Wolverine wasn't displayed as up and ready to go until several moments later,which means after Namor had left and conversed with Xavier. Now I would call that "being momentarily incapacitated", but yeah, I'm just out of it.
Carry on👆
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
That's not how fights work! 1f you get knocked down, you lose! Haven't you ever watched boxing or mma???? Huh idiot? dur
No, Srank, you lose when you get knocked down and you don't get up in a timely fashion. After Namor has finished running an errand doesn't count as "up in a timely fashion"
But no, you're rightdur
Originally posted by namorsubby
No, Srank, you lose when you get knocked down and you don't get up in a timely fashion. After Namor has finished running an errand doesn't count as "up in a timely fashion"But no, you're rightdur
And he was shown getting up immediately after the attack. So you do agree with Jinzin? 😱
Originally posted by namorsubbylike Srank said.. you fall down, you lose!
Wolverine wasn't displayed as up and ready to go until several moments later,which means after Namor had left and conversed with Xavier. Now I would call that "being momentarily incapacitated", but yeah, I'm just out of it.
I guess instantly getting up isn't a timely enough fashion.. whatever.
Originally posted by srankmissingninHe was shown looking back, lefting his head, commenting. I just rechecked it.
He was shown getting up. Getting up is the action that comes after getting knocked down and before being up. If he was getting up, the logical conclusion is that the act of getting up would result in being up...Or maybe he though that was a good time to get in a couple sets of pushups?
Where was he "getting up"? Post it, and I'll concede. I always do and I have when people provide amything that actually proves something. Ask a real debater, they're floating around here. No BS, you show, I concede, period.
You have the book, look at it. His arms are bend, his hand is drawn under his bicep, he isn't lying on the ground, he is in the "girl push-up position" supporting the weight on his body with his hands and knees... If he isn't getting up, what do you think he is doing? Presenting himself for Namor to take doggy style?
Okay, Srank. So he got up right then, before namor even left or had a conversation with X?
Seriously though, I honestly don't see how I can get that from anything shown in the actual issue. Not playing dumb, all BS aside. If you could just show me what you mean so I can see it your way, then that would be helpful. besides all of this.
I'm not engaging in any more back-and-forth until it gets hostile with you, Jinzin, or anyone, anymore, though. From now on I'll just realize when it gets to that point where we won't agree, and then do the mature thing, and "agree to disagree". Seriously, it's foolishness, IMO, on everyone's behalf. I'm tiring of it.
hehe Namor destroyed him in that encounter, there's no way arround that fact. Sure he needed the water after logan stabbed him and he could have gone for the skull, but IIRC logan got a cheap shot in with that stab and namor had been away from the ocean for a long time.
Wolverine is a good counter for bricks but it's unrealistic to expect him to take hulk or even namor for a majority in forum fights. Aquaman wins here too. Drops a building on him.
Originally posted by 753
hehe Namor destroyed him in that encounter, there's no way arround that fact. Sure he needed the water after logan stabbed him and he could have gone for the skull, but IIRC logan got a cheap shot in with that stab and namor had been away from the ocean for a long time.Wolverine is a good counter for bricks but it's unrealistic to expect him to take hulk or even namor for a majority in forum fights. Aquaman wins here too. Drops a building on him.
Yes Namor had the advantage in that fight, which is the likely scenario with a body of water to retreat to, they were both cheap shotting eachother though.
As far as unrealistic? Wolverine has a better suited power for defense to brick punishment while that isn't true the other way around. He can take in stride punishment from bricks for a while before being incapped and in turn all he has to do to drop most bricks is land one jab, doesn't even have to be well placed. He's a better fighter, more agile, and usually faster than they are as well.. He's the anti-brick able to bypass their best offense while having weapons that make their durability irrelivent.
Originally posted by jinzinIf we were talking about a fight against a standard brick like the thing then yes, he's powerset is perfect to counter that. But a lot of these bricks people pin him up agaisnt also have HF, superspeed and or flight, so his chances drop. He can still punch outside his weight class, but it's not really enough to give him a majority against the Hulk and some others in a forum IMO.
Yes Namor had the advantage in that fight, which is the likely scenario with a body of water to retreat to, they were both cheap shotting eachother though.As far as unrealistic? Wolverine has a better suited power for defense to brick punishment while that isn't true the other way around. He can take in stride punishment from bricks for a while before being incapped and in turn all he has to do to drop most bricks is land one jab, doesn't even have to be well placed. He's a better fighter, more agile, and usually faster than they are as well.. He's the anti-brick able to bypass their best offense while having weapons that make their durability irrelivent.