Giant Baby Bowser & Yoshi vs. Kain & Dante.

Started by BloodRain13 pages

''knocked Bowser back miles, Bowser was much farther than 500m away''
Care to take a wild shot and prove how you know this for a fact and are not simply assuming sp?

Horizon line. Scaling. Hell, even at 90m tall he's more than 500 m away.

Horizon in that scene is not an answer. Scaling wouldn't put him at a km either. The steps are the only way to get a number.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Horizon in that scene is not an answer. Scaling wouldn't put him at a km either. The steps are the only way to get a number.
Steps when you're stumbling and steps when you're walking = entirely different. At a full stride a runner and cross more distance than their height, for example.

It takes Bowser #steps to go from A to B. When knocked back from B to A he covers the distance of x. So #=x

Don't know why I said it like an algebra question mmm

GBB can spit balls of fire as fast as Yoshi can throw eggs.

And I think Scream is right about TK. GBB roars at the start of the fight, and a bunch of rocks just fly into the air. After the fight, Kamek flies to the moon.

Oh, and apparently Koji Kondo did the music for the game.

Already seen that claim. Saying its the same speed speed is based on visual match-up, speed on what we visually know puts it at <bullet speed.

'no one can say how they fell. Only speculate.' If it is TK then its a poor useless showing unless he wants to hurl rocks into the air.

Actually that TK is not a poor showing at all considering the sheer number of rocks and their combined weight. The number of rocks alone puts GBB's TK over Kain's. And as far as I know, Dante is relatively helpless against TK.

And no. Those Fireballs actually move faster than Yoshi's eggs based on what we can see. And Yoshi's eggs, whether ya like it or not, already move really fast.

If he cant hit Yoshi with rocks or even use his TK on Yoshi, is a poor showing that wont be effective here. Both of them even have teleporting so its useless, not that its TK or can be confirmed to be such.

Whether you like it or not the eggs are <bullet speed. If you want to go and use full physics for something like this you'll have to explain why the scene and distance contradicts it and how, according to physics, the egg wouldn't do anything like it did in that scene.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Except that mandatory gameplay should override optional gameplay. Give me some proof that Yoshi has ever thrown an egg at whatever enemy you mentioned.

So you believe Yoshi went through the whole game without killing anything except bosses?

And I do remember certain enemies getting in the way like the piranha plants and they withstand 1-3 eggs depending on the type.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Yoshi's eggs > all.

Is that why they couldn't put a dent on Raphael the Raven or any of small metal guys? Hell, it takes 3 eggs to kill a crab.


GBB > immune to their fvckery.

Giga Bowser was hit by eggs that couldn't knock out a frog's uvula off when shrunk. Giga Bowser isn't immune anything Pandora can pull off, a nest Lucifer spears, or a Rebellion slice.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
The number of rocks alone puts GBB's TK over Kain's.

That's only because Baby Bowser was much larger than Kain. If they were the same size that TK would be the equivalent of mentally throwing a bunch of oranges without any accurancy.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
So you believe Yoshi went through the whole game without killing anything except bosses?

And I do remember certain enemies getting in the way like the piranha plants and they withstand 1-3 eggs depending on the type.

That's only because Baby Bowser was much larger than Kain. If they were the same size that TK would be the equivalent of mentally throwing a bunch of oranges without any accurancy.

No, but I cannot prove that he killed them. Not to mention eggs are not his only form of attack. If we could even prove he had to defeat some of these enemies, we don't really know HOW he did it.

So can you prove that Bowser's size affects the strength of his TK? Your point is irrelevant anyway since this thread actually specifies GBB. So he still TKs the hell out of them.

@BloodRain

Bowser is not exactly right next to Yoshi either. I would think it's a lot easier to aim when your opponent can't move.

Impossible. Bowser is huge, and is very far away. You think the scene is too inconsistent for the physics to be applicable. But since DMC is fiction shit can get colder than Absolute Zero?

I smell a double standard, sir.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Bowser is not exactly right next to Yoshi either. I would think it's a lot easier to aim when your opponent can't move.

Impossible. Bowser is huge, and is very far away. You think the scene is too inconsistent for the physics to be applicable. But since DMC is fiction shit can get colder than Absolute Zero?

I smell a double standard, sir.


Replace the distance and input a speedster and teleporter. And IF he grabs one they can port out of it..

90m and 500m max away, noted. Then I suggest you get that sniffer checked. The Frosts 0k isnt from assuming and figures that contradict the scene its in. Frosts have official statements, Bowser/Yoshi have half-baked ideas clashing with a faulty scene. Was that your explanation?

There is little difference, my sniffer is just fine as I can smell your bullshit miles away. Below absolute zero is actually less possible than Yoshi's eggs hitting that speed with an arc would be. There is actually more to support the strength of Yoshi's throwing arm.

Kain requires motion to cast his teleport spell. He will not escape. I do not know of Dante's.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Replace the distance and input a speedster and teleporter. And IF he grabs one they can port out of it..

90m and 500m max away, noted. Then I suggest you get that sniffer checked. The Frosts 0k isnt from assuming and figures that contradict the scene its in. Frosts have official statements, Bowser/Yoshi have half-baked ideas clashing with a faulty scene. Was that your explanation?

Stop pulling impossibly small numbers out of your ass and ignoring the physics of what happened, neither Kain nor Dante can dodge a Yoshi egg, ect blah blah, I repeat myself, you repeat yourself.

Little? When did SP's calcs become in-game statements? 😐 official statements that has nothing to do with my 'bullshit', so.... where's that explanation?

Hm, was just about to say that Kain would be stuck.. but first it would have to be that his TK can immobilise and not just move about. [Remembered from old TK vs porters stuff]

Worked them out =/= out my ass, unlike you guessing the distance of everything. SP how is it not the same when you ignore what would really happen at that speed? Curves, doesn't leave the planet, doesnt take a microsecond to reach Bowser etc.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Little? When did SP's calcs become in-game statements? 😐 official statements that has nothing to do with my 'bullshit', so.... where's that explanation?

Hm, was just about to say that Kain would be stuck.. but first it would have to be that his TK can immobilise and not just move about. [Remembered from old TK vs porters stuff]

Worked them out =/= out my ass, unlike you guessing the distance of everything. SP how is it not the same when you ignore what would really happen at that speed? Curves, doesn't leave the planet, doesnt take a microsecond to reach Bowser etc.

Knocks a 260 000 metric ton (minimum) Bowser back a considerable distance at impressive speed, unless it has the mass of say, the CN Tower, it has to be moving at extreme speed, period. Laws of physics, just because the player can see it does not make it slow.

Out of curiosity, how did you work out your numbers without guessing?

Using the egg thrown when he's at the closest part to get the size of the egg compared to him (1m~, before height isues get into it considerer baby Marios height.) the scaling that number by how much smaller it is then GBB (1/90th) to get 90m~ tall. Distance he is is taken from the steps he takes, either normal or small ones. Is the only way to get the distance in a scene like that. [Old Mario games are odd like that]

Egg is atleast 5' in diameter, makes GBB more than 90m tall, already said this.

Egg disappears before it reaches GBB, makes him more than 90m tall, already said this too.

Player can see it =/= slow, said this a MILLION TIMES, remember the lasers in SSB:B? GODAMNIT. 😐

So on and so forth.

Don't worry, I remember the lazers SP.