Thanos; wearing the Asgardian Destroyer vs Zeus

A couple of thoughts:

IMHO, its throws the "cosmic balance" off if you have Skyfathers (Earth-level Gods) busting galaxy's...

You have Elder Gods, Cosmic Cubes, then (seemingly) several levels of true cosmic level beings above Skyfather...if you have Skyfathers busting galaxies and Cube Beings warping entire resisting universes, then that makes the Abstracts, Celestials (who were described by a Cube Being as being "several orders of magnitude" greater than itself), and the other Universal forces unrealistically powerful...

I actually liked how the Odin Force was toned down when "King Thor" possessed it; being able to perform major Earth-level feats (like reconstructing Earth's Moon) seems fitting of an Earth-level God IMHO...

As concerns the AD...

It was always my impression that the Destroyer had a base level of power that it operated on when animated by an ordinary soul...

However, I also thought that the Destroyers power grew in direct proportion to the "soul strength" inside it at a given time; ie...with a strong soul inside it, it would be more powerful than at "ordinary soul" power levels. With several weak souls inside of it, it should also be at greater than "ordinary soul" power levels as well...

Now even though I dont have any proof to support this, I believe Thanos possess's a powerful soul (I believe "soul strength" is equal to a beings will power). Thus I really do believe that the Asgardian Destroyer animated by Thanos would be operating at a level much greater than "ordinary soul" power levels...

Maybe not enough to cause the armor to grow, but enough to make it significantly more powerful than it would be normally...

As a result, I also am of the opinion that Thanos has a very real chance to beat Zeus here. Assumming that Thanos has his body well hidden, how the heck is Zeus going to harm it?

The Earth repairing feat was basically Thor's first act with the Odin Force. About 2 issues later, the Odin Force came to Thor, and had this conversation with him:

All of what Thor has done above - including recreating a Celestial Body- is "minimal compared to the power's limitless potential". He did not know how to personify it and was held back by self imposed limitations. He viewed himself as insignificant in the backdrop of existence, while he was always capable of becoming so much more. Thor finally began the journey to ascend to a level he could not dream of. Thor is also shown that he only needs to think, and the Odin Force can make it possible.
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Note: The Odin Force apparently creates a baby/mini Universe here.

This interaction is what makes me believe that the King Thor we see during Reigning is a fair bit more powerful -or at least formidable- than the one seen in current -at that time- Marvel. Experience is important.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
he one shotted all the eternals and then zuras stated "i am prime eternal i wont go down as easy as the otherse"
they they blast once at each other for only one panel
you clearly see zuras being blasted in the air

Not all the Eternals. He basically blew away the Eternals surrounding Zuras -who was weakened from the strain of the Uni-Mind and had just regained his strength- and the two traded energy attacks evenly to no affect. That was basically the extent of Zeus' involvement that I recall.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
yea they dont like the idea of earth gods doing cosmic feats

also have you seen this?
thor compares odins and zeus power to a cosmic cube

and confirms that the destroyer armor can kill galactus

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/51954/1159592-thor_annual_1989__014_36_37.jpg

Yea, I saw this already. I'd actually absolutely love this scan if it didn't have Thor spouting nonsense about his Galactus encounter.

What are your thoughts on "soul strength" as pertains the AD Rage?

I edited my above post btw...I dont know it you saw the changes yet.

From what I've seen, the power of the Destroyer doesn't actually take any jumps up the food chain unless vast amounts of energy is placed inside of it or more than one soul is operating it.

For example, I saw no difference in power between Sif/Balder empowering the Destroyer and an ordinary person. However, when an incredibly powerful being like the Designate -Skyfather level- was operating it, the Destroyer apparently did get somewhat more powerful but the increase in power was still minimal. When not pulling his punches, he was able to match it like usual.

If you place the life force of the Asgardians -basically full power Odin from what I can gather- in it plus some more lent energy, the Destroyer get's vastly more powerful.

If you place two different souls in the Destroyer, it does for some reason get a significant boost in power. Blake and Garm operated Destroyer probably had the best showing ever against Thor.

The last bit doesn't really make sense but whatever, it's magic! Or maybe it's just inconsistancy.

When Thor entered the Destroyer, he was a beast. Just his sheer formidability in combat.

Yeah, I definitely believe that you have to factor writing inconsistency into the equation, but I believe its supposed to operate on the basis of soul strength/power level...

That would make the most sense as to how the Destroyer works imo...

Originally posted by DarkOdin
The armor just acts as armor nothing else which would give thanos a boost in durability. Zeus is a lat Odin level or a notch below and we have yet to see Thanos too put him in the skyfather league.

Anyway if Thanos is wearing the armour Zeus can just animate the destory or someone else.

If thanos is the one animating the Destroyer Zeus can just cast him out as Oduibn has done to Others.

pretty much

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The Earth repairing feat was basically Thor's first act with the Odin Force. About 2 issues later, the Odin Force came to Thor, and had this conversation with him:

This interaction is what makes me believe that the King Thor we see during Reigning is a fair bit more powerful -or at least formidable- than the one seen in current -at that time- Marvel. Experience is important.

Not all the Eternals. He basically blew away the Eternals surrounding Zuras -who was weakened from the strain of the Uni-Mind and had just regained his strength- and the two traded energy attacks evenly to no affect. That was basically the extent of Zeus' involvement that I recall.

Yea, I saw this already. I'd actually absolutely love this scan if it didn't have Thor spouting nonsense about his Galactus encounter.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
A couple of thoughts:

IMHO, its throws the "cosmic balance" off if you have Skyfathers (Earth-level Gods) busting galaxy's...

You have Elder Gods, Cosmic Cubes, then (seemingly) several levels of true cosmic level beings above Skyfather...if you have Skyfathers busting galaxies and Cube Beings warping entire resisting universes, then that makes the Abstracts, Celestials (who were described by a Cube Being as being "several orders of magnitude" greater than itself), and the other Universal forces unrealistically powerful...

I actually liked how the Odin Force was toned down when "King Thor" possessed it; being able to perform major Earth-level feats (like reconstructing Earth's Moon) seems fitting of an Earth-level God IMHO...

also abstracts and celestials can effect things on a multiversal(multiple universes) scale
which is much greater than a universe so its not really unrealistic power

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Not all the Eternals. He basically blew away the Eternals surrounding Zuras -who was weakened from the strain of the Uni-Mind and had just regained his strength- and the two traded energy attacks evenly to no affect. That was basically the extent of Zeus' involvement that I recall.

if that fight would of contiunued , zuras would of gone down in a couple of panels

also heres a fraction of zeus power one shotting herald level guys

the guy in red is grendell who in his first fight with thor he broke both of thors arm and almost killed him and hela saved thor

Originally posted by tkitna
Thanos faired pretty damn well without the armor against Odin. With the armor, Zeus falls in my opinion.